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1. Nobody+fc[view] [source] 2025-06-24 17:29:23
>>moose4+(OP)
One aspect of this ruling [1] that I find concerning: on pages 7 and 11-12, it concedes that the LLM does substantially "memorize" copyrighted works, but rules that this doesn't violate the author's copyright because Anthropic has server-side filtering to avoid reproducing memorized text. (Alsup compares this to Google Books, which has server-side searchable full-text copies of copyrighted books, but only allows users to access snippets in a non-infringing manner.)

Does this imply that distributing open-weights models such as Llama is copyright infringement, since users can trivially run the model without output filtering to extract the memorized text?

[1]: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.43...

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2. riskab+5J[view] [source] 2025-06-24 20:25:05
>>Nobody+fc
A judge already ruled that models themselves don't constitute copyright infringement in Kadrey v. Meta Platforms, Inc. (https://casetext.com/case/kadrey-v-meta-platforms-inc). The EFF has a good summary about it:

> the court dismissed “nonsensical” claims that Meta’s LLaMA models are themselves infringing derivative works.

See: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/copyright-and-ai-cases...

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3. qoez+ZC2[view] [source] 2025-06-25 14:46:17
>>riskab+5J
Time to overfit on some books and publicize them as a libgen mirror.
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4. london+2t4[view] [source] 2025-06-26 07:22:15
>>qoez+ZC2
I think this could lead to interesting results outside the legalities.

Imagine you're getting it to spit out lord of the rings, but midway through you inject into the output 'Suddenly, the ring split in two. No longer one ring to rule them all, but two!'.

You then let the model write the rest of the story!

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5. espere+ku4[view] [source] 2025-06-26 07:36:36
>>london+2t4
I'm sure many people have imaged this - supposing that LLMs, while making no great strides towards AGI, consciousness, or any of that, nonetheless keep getting better and better at what they do now. Imagine a decade or two of steady improvements, throw in at least a couple of major breakthroughs. Much longer context by a few orders of magnitude. Much better quality, in terms of tone, consistency, hallucinations.

Maybe we'll actually be able to say things like: write me a trilogy in the style of Lord of the Rings but with these changes:

* Make it scifi

* Add more female characters with greater depth

* At least five rings

* Hobbits are the bad guys

... Or whatever, specifying a version of the story tailored to your intersts, and that you would get out really high quality results, similar in quality to the source materials.

Imagine you could do the same with movies, games, music.

I'm not trying to assign a value judgement here. There's good and bad sides. However, this reality is becoming easier to imagine with each new model released.

For sure, anyone who is a writer or artist will see this as bad. But perhaps our whole concept of what art is will become more fluid and personalized.

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