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1. Nobody+fc[view] [source] 2025-06-24 17:29:23
>>moose4+(OP)
One aspect of this ruling [1] that I find concerning: on pages 7 and 11-12, it concedes that the LLM does substantially "memorize" copyrighted works, but rules that this doesn't violate the author's copyright because Anthropic has server-side filtering to avoid reproducing memorized text. (Alsup compares this to Google Books, which has server-side searchable full-text copies of copyrighted books, but only allows users to access snippets in a non-infringing manner.)

Does this imply that distributing open-weights models such as Llama is copyright infringement, since users can trivially run the model without output filtering to extract the memorized text?

[1]: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.43...

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2. PeterS+cX1[view] [source] 2025-06-25 09:44:49
>>Nobody+fc
No. You are free to memorize any copyrighted work. You are just not free to distribute it.

The model itself does not constitute a copy. Its intention is clearly not to reproduce verbatim texts. There would be far cheaper and infinitly more accurate ways to do that if that was the goal.

Appart from the legalities, it would be horrifying if copyright reached into the AI realm to completely styfle progress for, lets be honest, mainly the profits of a few major IP corporations.

I do however understand some creatives are worried about revenue, just like the rest of us. But just like the rest of us, they to live in a world that can only exist because 99.99% of what it took to build that world was automated or tool enhanced, impacting someone's previous employment or business.

We are in a world of unprecedented change, only to be immediatly supassed by the next day's rate of change. This both scares and fascinates me.

But that change and its benefits being held only in the bowels of corporate/government symbiotic entities would scare me a hell of a lott more. Open Source/weights is the only way to have a small chance to keep this at bay.

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