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1. 3PS+V1[view] [source] 2025-06-24 16:32:07
>>moose4+(OP)
Broadly summarizing.

This is OK and fair use: Training LLMs on copyrighted work, since it's transformative.

This is not OK and not fair use: pirating data, or creating a big repository of pirated data that isn't necessarily for AI training.

Overall seems like a pretty reasonable ruling?

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2. almata+K9[view] [source] 2025-06-24 17:14:35
>>3PS+V1
If a publisher adds a "no AI training" clause to their contracts, does this ruling render it invalid?
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3. banana+2a[view] [source] 2025-06-24 17:16:24
>>almata+K9
what contract? with who?

Meta at least just downloaded ENGLISH_LANGUAGUE_BOOKS_ALL_MEGATORRENT.torrent and trained on that.

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4. almata+Kb[view] [source] 2025-06-24 17:26:51
>>banana+2a
I know, but the article mentions that a separate ruling will be made about that pirating.

quote: “We will have a trial on the pirated copies used to create Anthropic’s central library and the resulting damages,” Judge Alsup wrote in the decision. “That Anthropic later bought a copy of a book it earlier stole off the internet will not absolve it of liability for theft but it may affect the extent of statutory damages.”

This tells me Anthropic acquired these books legally afterwards. I was asking if during that purchase, the seller could add a no training close to the sales contract.

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