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1. rafram+u7[view] [source] 2025-06-20 18:38:37
>>techno+(OP)
Grayzone is an extremely unreliable source which frequently publishes false stories with an anti-US bent [1][2]. The past discussion [3] has a WSJ link which should be preferred over this.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone

[2]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/02/grayzon...

[3]: >>44268547

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2. whatsh+U7[view] [source] 2025-06-20 18:41:47
>>rafram+u7
It'd probably be a stronger case if you could point out an inaccuracy in the article. In a sense it's implicit agreement to only criticise the identity of the source.
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3. stickf+ma[view] [source] 2025-06-20 18:55:45
>>whatsh+U7
Dishonest sources can generate bullshit faster than honest people can debunk it. At some point you are obliged to dismiss consistently unreliable sources.

In fact, Wikipedia has already done this:

"The English Wikipedia formally deprecated the use of The Grayzone as a source for facts in its articles in March 2020, citing issues with the website's factual reliability."

(from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone)

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4. jjmarr+yc[view] [source] 2025-06-20 19:08:56
>>stickf+ma
It was deprecated because it was the personal blog of Max Blumenthal more than any specific false stories. The Wikipedia discussion is public:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Not...

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5. stickf+2f[view] [source] 2025-06-20 19:24:14
>>jjmarr+yc
It's literally right there in the heading of that RfC you linked:

Taking into account the strength of the arguments and those who did not distinguish between those options, there is a rough consensus for Option 4: "Publishes false or fabricated information, and should be deprecated".

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