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1. bitpus+v4[view] [source] 2025-06-12 17:15:25
>>tripdo+(OP)
GrapheneOS made an unforced error by exaggerating the situation. ("Boy who cried wolf"). When you're generic and obviously false in your criticism, it makes it easy for the company to counter it. "Google is killing AOSP" catches eye, but it is sooo easy for the company to counter.

What is going on is frustration. GrapheneOS has been relying on Google's good faith effort on providing binary blobs to Pixel in addition to AOSP to make their OS. Google was under no obligation to give that, and they stopped doing it for whatever reason.

To make things worse, GrapheneOS mentions legal/anti-trust blah blah blah, which means no engineer will touch / comment / help in the matter, and it gets routed to legal blackhole.

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2. rgreek+d8[view] [source] 2025-06-12 17:37:24
>>bitpus+v4
Google is one of two monopolists. Weird to defend them here.
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3. ChadNa+ha[view] [source] 2025-06-12 17:47:56
>>rgreek+d8
https://open.substack.com/pub/astralcodexten/p/if-its-worth-...
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4. Spivak+Hi[view] [source] 2025-06-12 18:24:45
>>ChadNa+ha
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5. Anthon+oO[view] [source] 2025-06-12 20:49:06
>>Spivak+Hi
> If this was on my 2025 bingo card I think we could have crossed it off a few times with ICE detention facilities and the prison in El Salvador.

Isn't this the motte and bailey thing though? "Putting minorities in camps" has the implication that they're being put into camps because they're minorities. It's meant to invoke the thing the 20th century fascists did where if you're a member of the group you go to the camps, and moreover if you go to the camps you never come back.

Meanwhile ICE is detaining people because they're suspected of being in the country illegally, and then deporting them.

They suck at it, as usual, so some of the people aren't actually in the country illegally, but most of them are, and then when the government screws up the courts slowly get around to sorting it out. Which is a process that has maybe been in need of reform for quite a while now -- in particular it would be nice to see the government paying for its mistakes more often, and for the "unscrew this up" process to take less time -- but those aren't novelties only now being introduced, they're longstanding problems.

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6. UmGuys+cy1[view] [source] 2025-06-13 05:16:49
>>Anthon+oO
I don't understand the contention as I don't participate in the disinformation. ICE kidnaps people without showing documentation on who they are or why they're being kidnapped. They quickly move the people they capture to another facility in the US hundreds of miles away. Then, they send them to El Salvador, a hostile place, or a country they've never been to. This process occurs without seeing a judge to even double check the abducted person is who ICE claims they are. Let alone any actual due process. What's the contention?

Also, despite the insane cruelty that seems to be the process, both Obama and Biden deported more people than Trump.

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7. Anthon+q86[view] [source] 2025-06-15 17:14:08
>>UmGuys+cy1
> ICE kidnaps people without showing documentation on who they are or why they're being kidnapped.

Which is, again, a longstanding problem rather than some novelty introduced just now.

> Also, despite the insane cruelty that seems to be the process, both Obama and Biden deported more people than Trump.

And that's kind of my point:

https://law.ucla.edu/news/no-fair-day-damning-new-report-rev...

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