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[return to "Google Pixels are no longer the AOSP reference device"]
1. PaulHo+q[view] [source] 2025-06-12 16:55:38
>>tripdo+(OP)
Lemmie guess, in six month we hear Google is killing Pixel.
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2. bitpus+Z3[view] [source] 2025-06-12 17:13:17
>>PaulHo+q
From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Don't be curmudgeonly. Thoughtful criticism is fine, but please don't be rigidly or generically negative.

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3. gsf_em+L8[view] [source] 2025-06-12 17:40:29
>>bitpus+Z3
In a better world.. goog could be as helpful towards grOS as aapl towards asahi. But "anything that doesn't detract from selling hw is fine" can't make it into goog's once-aspirational "knowledge economy" business calculus. (Legal considerations contribute further inertia)

I think though, "write-only" third-party contributions are a necessary evolutionary step towards a more balanced ecosystem, so lack of an open reference could lead to the needed experimentation, both legal and technical

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4. bitpus+ld[view] [source] 2025-06-12 18:07:04
>>gsf_em+L8
I've not kept up with Asahi, but how is Apple helping Asahi? My surface level understanding was Asahi was reverse engineering everything and Apple is offering 0 help/support.
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5. seabro+dg[view] [source] 2025-06-12 18:17:34
>>bitpus+ld
Depends on your definition of "help".

Apple doesn't support Asahi specifically but did build in the capability to boot another OS and intentionally does not block it.

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6. philod+Lm[view] [source] 2025-06-12 18:37:45
>>seabro+dg
But as of the M4 Macs, Apple is preventing the Asahi team from learning how the drivers work with a “bug” in the bootloader: https://social.treehouse.systems/@sven/114278224116678776
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