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1. matthe+y41[view] [source] 2025-06-03 06:58:13
>>tablet+(OP)
I think this article is pretty spot on — it articulates something I’ve come to appreciate about LLM-assisted coding over the past few months.

I started out very sceptical. When Claude Code landed, I got completely seduced — borderline addicted, slot machine-style — by what initially felt like a superpower. Then I actually read the code. It was shockingly bad. I swung back hard to my earlier scepticism, probably even more entrenched than before.

Then something shifted. I started experimenting. I stopped giving it orders and began using it more like a virtual rubber duck. That made a huge difference.

It’s still absolute rubbish if you just let it run wild, which is why I think “vibe coding” is basically just “vibe debt” — because it just doesn’t do what most (possibly uninformed) people think it does.

But if you treat it as a collaborator — more like an idiot savant with a massive brain but no instinct or nous — or better yet, as a mech suit [0] that needs firm control — then something interesting happens.

I’m now at a point where working with Claude Code is not just productive, it actually produces pretty good code, with the right guidance. I’ve got tests, lots of them. I’ve also developed a way of getting Claude to document intent as we go, which helps me, any future human reader, and, crucially, the model itself when revisiting old code.

What fascinates me is how negative these comments are — how many people seem closed off to the possibility that this could be a net positive for software engineers rather than some kind of doomsday.

Did Photoshop kill graphic artists? Did film kill theatre? Not really. Things changed, sure. Was it “better”? There’s no counterfactual, so who knows? But change was inevitable.

What’s clear is this tech is here now, and complaining about it feels a bit like mourning the loss of punch cards when terminals showed up.

[0]: https://matthewsinclair.com/blog/0178-why-llm-powered-progra...

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2. raxxor+yi1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 09:29:26
>>matthe+y41
The better I am at solving a problem, the less I use AI assistants. I use them if I try a new language or framework.

Busy code I need to generate is difficult to do with AI too. Because then you need to formalize the necessary context for an AI assistant, which is exhausting with an unsure result. So perhaps it is just simpler to write it yourself quickly.

I understand comments being negative, because there is so much AI hype without having to many practical applications yet. Or at least good practical applications. Some of that hype is justified, some of it is not. I enjoyed the image/video/audio synthesis hype more tbh.

Test cases are quite helpful and comments are decent too. But often prompting is more complex than programming something. And you can never be sure if any answer is usable.

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3. echelo+ed2[view] [source] 2025-06-03 16:09:55
>>raxxor+yi1
> The better I am at solving a problem, the less I use AI assistants.

Yes, but you're expensive.

And these models are getting better at solving a lot of business-relevant problems.

Soon all business-relevant problems will be bent to the shape of the LLM because it's cost-effective.

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4. onemor+UL2[view] [source] 2025-06-03 19:30:57
>>echelo+ed2
You're forgetting how much money is being burned in keeping these LLMs cheap. Remember when Uber was a fraction of the cost of a cab? Yeah, those days didn't last.
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5. ido+xQ3[view] [source] 2025-06-04 06:50:54
>>onemor+UL2
Even at 100x the cost (currently $20/month for most of these via subscriptions) it’s still cheaper than an intern, let alone a senior dev.
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6. nipah+b4m[view] [source] 2025-06-11 14:16:57
>>ido+xQ3
I'm sorry, 2000 USD per month is MUCH more costly than an engineer from a third world country, it can basically pay for a senior where I live. Even 200 USD is sufficient for an intern here. The problem with your point is that it's not counting on the fact that this work can be done all over the world.
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