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1. throwa+9[view] [source] 2025-06-06 10:37:14
>>throwa+(OP)
Well-known developer Enrico Weigelt just forked the X server from freedesktop.org after getting the boot [0].

[0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests...

[1] https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/commits/xlibre/prepare/

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2. chrism+04[view] [source] 2025-06-06 11:25:46
>>throwa+9
“Getting the boot” is rather vague. Is there any more information anywhere, background, &c.?

My general impression (quite possibly incorrect) was that X.Org Server is largely treated as “done”, making only bugfixes and such these days.

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3. JimDab+E4[view] [source] 2025-06-06 11:32:36
>>chrism+04
From the readme:

> That fork was necessary since toxic elements within Xorg projects, moles from certian big corp are boycotting any substantial work on Xorg, in order to destroy the project, to elimitate competition of their own products. (classic "embrace, extend, extinguish" tactics)

> This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed.

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4. hello_+B5[view] [source] 2025-06-06 11:42:19
>>JimDab+E4
> moles from certian big corp are boycotting any substantial work on Xorg, in order to destroy the project

That's what I've always thought. The "X11 developers" pushing for Wayland weren't original developers so much as RedHat "maintainers," who (understandably) wanted a frontier to explore rather than janitorial work. All I know for certain is that X11 (even as of 15 years ago) mostly worked, while Wayland of 2025 is still full of headaches & breakages.

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5. dralle+w7[view] [source] 2025-06-06 12:01:18
>>hello_+B5
X did not "just work" for me 10 years ago, and neither is Wayland "still full of headaches and breakages"

I've had no substantial problems because of Wayland in the last, like, 5 years.

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6. bluefl+w8[view] [source] 2025-06-06 12:09:14
>>dralle+w7
Nvidia, vmxgfx. I would run wayland if i could.
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7. marius+Fk[view] [source] 2025-06-06 13:37:02
>>bluefl+w8
> I would run wayland if i could.

You can if you stop buying nvidia. The problem with missing drivers is principally the fault of the hardware vendor not of the kernel community.

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8. antiso+3h4[view] [source] 2025-06-08 10:04:15
>>marius+Fk
>> I would run wayland if i could. >You can if you stop buying nvidia.

This response is so hilarious.

"The wave of the future is coming! And you can get with it too! All you have to do is just give up gaming!"

Seriously, what are these people smoking??

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9. theodr+VF7[view] [source] 2025-06-09 20:21:59
>>antiso+3h4
And here I thought the wave of the future was generative AI, which damn near requires Nvidia to even function. Sure can't wait for RedHat to deprecate and nuke and blacklist and hellban all Nvidia capability!
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