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1. actini+1H[view] [source] 2025-06-06 23:59:01
>>amrrs+(OP)
Man, remember when everyone was like 'AGI just around the corner!' Funny how well the Gartner hype cycle captures these sorts of things
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2. bayind+0I[view] [source] 2025-06-07 00:10:02
>>actini+1H
They're similar to self-driving vehicles. Both are around the corner, but neither can negotiate the turn.
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3. nmca+v91[view] [source] 2025-06-07 07:08:39
>>bayind+0I
I saw your comment and counted — in May I took a Waymo thirty times.
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4. bayind+qj1[view] [source] 2025-06-07 09:59:38
>>nmca+v91
Waymo is a popular argument in self-driving cars, and they do well.

However, Waymo is Deep Blue of self-driving cars. Doing very well in a closed space. As a result of this geofencing, they have effectively exhausted their search space, hence they work well as a consequence of lack of surprises.

AI works well when search space is limited, but General AI in any category needs to handle a vastly larger search space, and they fall flat.

At the end of the day, AI is informed search. They get inputs, and generate a suitable output as deemed by their trainers.

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5. mhast+Su3[view] [source] 2025-06-08 13:51:58
>>bayind+qj1
I suspect that Waymo car's could operate in a lot more areas than they do. The issue is that Waymo are trying to sell the service of safe travel and not a car with an addon you can pay for which doesn't actually work.

In other words, since they accept liability for their cars it's not in their interest to roll out the service too fast. It makes more sense to do it slow and steady.

It's not really a strong argument that their technology is incapable of working in general areas.

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