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1. stephc+vz1[view] [source] 2025-06-07 13:42:25
>>amrrs+(OP)
Human language is far from perfect as a cognitive tool but still serves us well because it is not foundational. We use it both for communication and some reasoning/planning as a high level layer.

I strongly believe that human language is too weak (vague, inconsistent, not expressive enough etc.) to replace interactions with the world as a basis to build strong cognition.

We're easily fooled by the results of LLM/LRM models because we typically use language fluency and knowledge retrieval as a proxy benchmark for intelligence among our peers.

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2. antith+g82[view] [source] 2025-06-07 18:58:54
>>stephc+vz1
Language mediates those interactions with the world. There is no unmediated interaction with the world. Those moments when one feels most directly in contact with reality, that is when one is so deep down inside language that one cannot see daylight at all.
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