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>>fsflov+(OP)
I've got to say, some of the comments here are pretty funny.

> "The sideloading restriction is easily solved by installing GrapheneOS"

> "Unless they block ADB, I wouldn't say it's accurate to claim they're "blocking sideloading"".

Not to pick on these folks but it's like we on HN have forgotten that ordinary people use phones too. For some of us, it's not a limitation as long as we can solder a JTAG debugger to some test pads on the PCB and flash our own firmware, but for most users that's just about as possible as replacing the OS.

>>tdeck+o9
There was some Ubuntu (or Linux) forum where I had asked a question and I wanted an app or something (I can't recall now) which was easier to use and do repeatedly. Most of the people were replying with stuff like "why can't you just do <something that involves lots of CLI and more than an hour ro so>" or on the lines of it.

I, someone extremely new to Linux (hell, new to computers), was bewildered. Then a commenter replied with something that helped me and exactly what I needed. He added a note directed towards others which went something like - the battle for Linux as THE desktop OS was sabotaged by its most ardent practitioners.

>>crossr+Qh

  > the battle for Linux as THE desktop OS was sabotaged by its most ardent practitioners.

This definitely happened with Arch. For some reason they killed the noob guide (which I helped maintain). It was a great guide that helped people go from noob to kinda knowing linux.

You can't have wizards without first having noobs.

Why gatekeep people from enjoying the same thing you enjoy?

Well, I guess all that gave us EndeavourOS and Manjaro. But still, we need more places for people to learn that nitty gritty stuff.

Hell, I'd love to learn more about the hardware hacking the OP is talking about. Love to learn about those GPU hardware modifications people do. I know it's hacker news, but I'd actually love to learn about that hacker stuff. If these companies are going to continue to fight this hard to prevent us from owning the things we buy, it sounds like an important thing to learn. Or else we're soon going to have robot butlers that are just sending lidar maps and high resolution photos of our homes back to these companies. We don't need elitest pricks, we need wizards teaching noobs

>>godels+nn
> You can't have wizards without first having noobs.

But maybe some wizards feel miserable when they are forced to interact 95% of the time with noobs, instead of other wizards? Maybe they want a circle for themselves, as a basic human need?

>>bmacho+YG1
I'd follow "Thumper's Rule"[0].

If you don't want to interact, you don't have to comment or engage.

  > Maybe they want a circle for themselves, as a basic human need?

Fwiw, I'm a big fan of having private spaces and niches. It helps to filter this out. I think it is a mistake we make in our community designs, that everything needs to be public or whole cloth (e.g. Reddit doesn't allow subdivisions within the community). I do like that HN puts a threshold on the downvote, but I'd even like a lower threshold on the upvote. Allows people to wade into the community.

But yeah, I think there is a problem now that the majority of communities have no ability to self filter and self form hierarchies. Without this, noob voices tend to drown out experts and frankly, noobs begin to believe they are experts. I'm sure we've all seen the typical CS stereotype of "read first line of wikipedia article, assume I know the rest" type of person...

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fYngTUZeUQ