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1. throwa+9[view] [source] 2025-06-06 10:37:14
>>throwa+(OP)
Well-known developer Enrico Weigelt just forked the X server from freedesktop.org after getting the boot [0].

[0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests...

[1] https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/commits/xlibre/prepare/

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2. chrism+04[view] [source] 2025-06-06 11:25:46
>>throwa+9
“Getting the boot” is rather vague. Is there any more information anywhere, background, &c.?

My general impression (quite possibly incorrect) was that X.Org Server is largely treated as “done”, making only bugfixes and such these days.

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3. JimDab+E4[view] [source] 2025-06-06 11:32:36
>>chrism+04
From the readme:

> That fork was necessary since toxic elements within Xorg projects, moles from certian big corp are boycotting any substantial work on Xorg, in order to destroy the project, to elimitate competition of their own products. (classic "embrace, extend, extinguish" tactics)

> This is an independent project, not at all affiliated with BigTech or any of their subsidiaries or tax evasion tools, nor any political activists groups, state actors, etc. It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies. Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed.

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4. hello_+B5[view] [source] 2025-06-06 11:42:19
>>JimDab+E4
> moles from certian big corp are boycotting any substantial work on Xorg, in order to destroy the project

That's what I've always thought. The "X11 developers" pushing for Wayland weren't original developers so much as RedHat "maintainers," who (understandably) wanted a frontier to explore rather than janitorial work. All I know for certain is that X11 (even as of 15 years ago) mostly worked, while Wayland of 2025 is still full of headaches & breakages.

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5. dralle+w7[view] [source] 2025-06-06 12:01:18
>>hello_+B5
X did not "just work" for me 10 years ago, and neither is Wayland "still full of headaches and breakages"

I've had no substantial problems because of Wayland in the last, like, 5 years.

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6. hello_+G9[view] [source] 2025-06-06 12:19:47
>>dralle+w7
2016-01-23 https://github.com/MaartenBaert/ssr/issues/431

2019-01-04 (only took 3 1/2 years to resolve!) https://github.com/flathub/us.zoom.Zoom/issues/22

2020-03-07 https://github.com/vkohaupt/vokoscreenNG/issues/51

2020-03-07 https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/issues/2471

2020-03-24 https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/6389

2023-09 https://www.jwz.org/blog/2023/09/wayland-and-screen-savers/

2023-11-17 https://github.com/raspberrypi/bookworm-feedback/issues/149

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7. bitwiz+B01[view] [source] 2025-06-06 17:57:12
>>hello_+G9
Wayland is working as designed. The fix is to:

* design and implement a dbus protocol that does screen sharing the way you want it done

* get buy-in from all the major compositors and applications to implement your protocol themselves

I mean, should be a doddle for any serious project.

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