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1. Aurorn+m4[view] [source] 2025-06-05 17:00:12
>>fsflov+(OP)
> In a pilot program launched in Singapore, the tech giant now blocks the installation of certain sideloaded apps—particularly those requesting sensitive permissions such as SMS access or accessibility services—if they are downloaded via web browsers, messaging apps, or file managers.

There are a lot of qualifiers on this: Only in Singapore, only on apps requesting certain permissions frequently used by scams, and only when downloaded via certain paths.

I don’t see the full details but this implies that it’s still possible for advanced users to side load whatever they want. They don’t want to make it easy for the average user to start sideloading apps that access SMS permissions or accessibility controls.

If it takes a few extra steps for the advanced user to sideload these apps that’s not really a big infringement on freedom like this purism PR piece is trying to imply. Unfortunately sideloaded apps are a problematic scam avenue for low-tech users.

> The move, developed in partnership with Singapore’s Cyber Security Agency, is designed to prevent fraud and malware-enabled scams.

This explains why it’s only in Singapore for now.

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2. soulof+k7[view] [source] 2025-06-05 17:15:58
>>Aurorn+m4
I think you're dismissing legitimate concerns without fully understanding them, because through the right lens you realize how this can be anticompetitive in the mass market.

Even if some technically inclined folk can install what they want, the masses will stay in the walled garden so that Google can get their cut and exert ideological control. Even now, both Google and Apple engage in practices across their product that are designed to scare people away from third party applications. From Google's terminology when describing Google in banners as "a more secure browser" etc, to Apple requiring a secret incantation in order to run unsigned apps.

All of this kind of mind control bullshit should be eradicated via regulation. Companies should not have a license to be deceptive towards their users.

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3. Klonoa+V8[view] [source] 2025-06-05 17:23:25
>>soulof+k7
The comment you're responding to includes the line:

> The move, developed in partnership with Singapore’s Cyber Security Agency, is designed to prevent fraud and malware-enabled scams.

Your comment seems to disregard it and instead lay this entirely at Google's feet as if they're seeking anti-competitive behavior - but if this was driven by a government, does Google really deserve all the blame?

(Note that I am explicitly not endorsing the move. I think sideloading should be left mostly untouched.)

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4. soulof+Mc[view] [source] 2025-06-05 17:50:58
>>Klonoa+V8
> Your comment seems to disregard it

Because it's irrelevant.

> but if this was driven by a government, does Google really deserve all the blame?

Of course. If the government ordered Google to assist in a genocide against some demographic, and Google goes along with it, it doesn't matter if the government is also evil. Google is evil for playing ball.

And we don't have to speak in hypotheticals. Both Google and Amazon are actively engaging in tech-assisted genocide.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/23/what-is-project-nim...

I have boycotted Amazon for a while now and I'd boycott Google too if it wasn't so pervasive in my professional life.

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5. redavn+ui[view] [source] 2025-06-05 18:27:38
>>soulof+Mc
When you understand that this is not literally the truth, but is actually still true.
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6. soulof+Jo[view] [source] 2025-06-05 19:02:06
>>redavn+ui
I'm not sure what you're talking about, mind elaborating?
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7. redavn+RJ[view] [source] 2025-06-05 21:38:11
>>soulof+Jo
I would love to, but this is the wrong forum. This is going to sound weird if you understand these events purely literally, but me and you are ideologically aligned, but not dialectically aligned. There is a much greater truth to this entire situation.
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