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>>fsflov+(OP)
I've got to say, some of the comments here are pretty funny.

> "The sideloading restriction is easily solved by installing GrapheneOS"

> "Unless they block ADB, I wouldn't say it's accurate to claim they're "blocking sideloading"".

Not to pick on these folks but it's like we on HN have forgotten that ordinary people use phones too. For some of us, it's not a limitation as long as we can solder a JTAG debugger to some test pads on the PCB and flash our own firmware, but for most users that's just about as possible as replacing the OS.

>>tdeck+o9
GrapheneOS is totally normie friendly.

When we last got new phones I put GrapheneOS on mine and my partners, I never subsequently had to play tech support on hers.

>>nullc+7d
I am legitimately glad for devs of graphene os and for it graphene working in your case but it is not functional if a user needs banking orr streaming apps, or any number of other impacted apps such as mcdonald's or pokemon go.... that is after installing the optional play services, reducing the privacy benefits of graphene.

I own no firsthand experience but read many users require app 2FA to make card payments.

The solution must be social-legislative. The London smog and terrifying auto deaths at 30 KPH were solved but not by niche enthusiast projects.

>>Heatra+Mj
> but it is not functional if a user needs banking orr streaming apps

Huh? Banking apps not working on GOS are a rather rare exception (which I have not run into ever and I use several), and streaming apps work just fine. I "only" use Netflix & Amazon Prime but other people attest[0] to Disney+, Paramount, Max, and SkyGo working, too – even without Google services.

[0]: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/20256-streaming-apps/6