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1. matthe+y41[view] [source] 2025-06-03 06:58:13
>>tablet+(OP)
I think this article is pretty spot on — it articulates something I’ve come to appreciate about LLM-assisted coding over the past few months.

I started out very sceptical. When Claude Code landed, I got completely seduced — borderline addicted, slot machine-style — by what initially felt like a superpower. Then I actually read the code. It was shockingly bad. I swung back hard to my earlier scepticism, probably even more entrenched than before.

Then something shifted. I started experimenting. I stopped giving it orders and began using it more like a virtual rubber duck. That made a huge difference.

It’s still absolute rubbish if you just let it run wild, which is why I think “vibe coding” is basically just “vibe debt” — because it just doesn’t do what most (possibly uninformed) people think it does.

But if you treat it as a collaborator — more like an idiot savant with a massive brain but no instinct or nous — or better yet, as a mech suit [0] that needs firm control — then something interesting happens.

I’m now at a point where working with Claude Code is not just productive, it actually produces pretty good code, with the right guidance. I’ve got tests, lots of them. I’ve also developed a way of getting Claude to document intent as we go, which helps me, any future human reader, and, crucially, the model itself when revisiting old code.

What fascinates me is how negative these comments are — how many people seem closed off to the possibility that this could be a net positive for software engineers rather than some kind of doomsday.

Did Photoshop kill graphic artists? Did film kill theatre? Not really. Things changed, sure. Was it “better”? There’s no counterfactual, so who knows? But change was inevitable.

What’s clear is this tech is here now, and complaining about it feels a bit like mourning the loss of punch cards when terminals showed up.

[0]: https://matthewsinclair.com/blog/0178-why-llm-powered-progra...

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2. throw3+G51[view] [source] 2025-06-03 07:12:08
>>matthe+y41
> Did Photoshop kill graphic artists?

No, but AI did.

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3. tptace+m61[view] [source] 2025-06-03 07:19:54
>>throw3+G51
This, as the article makes clear, is a concern I am alert and receptive to. Ban production of anything visual from an LLM; I'll vote for it. Just make sure they can still generate Mermaid charts and Graphviz diagrams, so they still apply to developers.
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4. hatefu+W61[view] [source] 2025-06-03 07:25:44
>>tptace+m61
What is unique about graphic design that warrants such extraordinary care? Should we just ban technology that approaches "replacement" territory? What about the people, real or imagined, that earn a living making Graphviz diagrams?
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5. omnimu+6f1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 08:49:30
>>hatefu+W61
It’s more question of how it does what it does. By making statistical model out of work of humans that it now aims to replace.

I think graphic designers would be a lot less angry if AIs were trained on licensed work… thats how the system worked up until now after all.

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6. samcat+UU1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 14:19:22
>>omnimu+6f1
FWIW Adobe makes a lot of noise about how their specific models were indeed trained on only licensed work. Not sure if that really matters however
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7. omnimu+XC5[view] [source] 2025-06-04 19:41:49
>>samcat+UU1
Yes Adobe and Shutterstock/Getty might be in position to do this.

But there is a reason why nobody cares about Adobe AI and everybody uses midjourney…

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