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1. hattma+s6[view] [source] 2025-06-02 15:04:19
>>gregor+(OP)
I guess for me the questions is, at what point do you feel it would be reasonable to this without the experts involved in your case?

As an edit, after reading some of the prompts, what is the likelihood that a non-expert could even come up with those prompts?

The really really interesting thing would be if an AI could actually generate the prompts.

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2. kenton+O8[view] [source] 2025-06-02 15:16:32
>>hattma+s6
(I'm the author of this library -- or, the guy who prompted the AI at least.)

I absolutely would not vibe code an OAuth implementation! Or any other production code at Cloudflare. We've been using more AI internally, but made this rule very clear: the human engineer directing the AI must fully understand and take responsibility for any code which the AI has written.

I do think vibe coding can be really useful in low-stakes environments, though. I vibe-coded an Android app to use as a baby monitor (it just streams audio from a Unifi camera in the kid's room). I had no previous Android experience, and it would have taken me weeks to learn without AI, but it only took a few hours with AI.

I think we are in desperate need of safe vibe coding environments where code runs in a sandbox with security policies that make it impossible to screw up. That would enable a whole lot of people to vibe-code personal apps for personal use cases. It happens I have some background building such platforms...

But those guardrails only really make sense at the application level. At the systems level, I don't think this is possible. AI is not smart enough yet to build systems without serious bugs and security issues. So human experts are still going to be necessary for a while there.

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3. aerhar+KO3[view] [source] 2025-06-03 19:42:42
>>kenton+O8
> I do think vibe coding can be really useful in low-stakes environments, though. I vibe-coded an Android app to use as a baby monitor (it just streams audio from a Unifi camera in the kid's room). I had no previous Android experience, and it would have taken me weeks to learn without AI, but it only took a few hours with AI.

Bro, you're still an engineer at Cloudflare!

One problem I see with "vibe coding" is how it means one thing if Ilya Sutskever says it, and another if a non-tech executive parrots it and imagines "citizens developers" coding their own business apps.

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