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1. cesarb+Zl[view] [source] 2025-06-02 23:25:17
>>tablet+(OP)
This article does not touch on the thing which worries me the most with respect to LLMs: the dependence.

Unless you can run the LLM locally, on a computer you own, you are now completely dependent on a remote centralized system to do your work. Whoever controls that system can arbitrarily raise the prices, subtly manipulate the outputs, store and do anything they want with the inputs, or even suddenly cease to operate. And since, according to this article, only the latest and greatest LLM is acceptable (and I've seen that exact same argument six months ago), running locally is not viable (I've seen, in a recent discussion, someone mention a home server with something like 384G of RAM just to run one LLM locally).

To those of us who like Free Software because of the freedom it gives us, this is a severe regression.

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2. amadeu+mp1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 10:44:38
>>cesarb+Zl
I can't run google on my computer on my own, but I'm totally dependent on it.
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3. _heimd+2y1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 11:58:14
>>amadeu+mp1
Is your entire job returning google results?

The point being made here is that a developer that can only do their primary job of coding via a hosted LLM is entirely dependent on a third party.

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4. scotty+P02[view] [source] 2025-06-03 14:56:11
>>_heimd+2y1
How much of useful programming work are you able to do without google? I don't think I even tried to do do any for the last 20 years.

You make a good point of course that independence is important. But primo, this ship sailed long ago, secundo, more than one party provides the service you depend on. If one failes you still have at least some alternatives.

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5. ARandu+l62[view] [source] 2025-06-03 15:33:53
>>scotty+P02
I guess it depends on how you define "using google", but as I've progressed as a developer, I've found myself spending less time googling problems, and more time just looking at official documentation (maybe GitHub issues if I'm doing something weird). And yeah, I guess I technically use google to get to the documentation instead of typing in the URL, but that feels like splitting hairs.

And it's not like people weren't able to develop complicated software before the internet. They just had big documentation books that cost money and could get dated quickly. To be clear, having that same info a quick google search away is an improvement, and I'm not going to stop using google while it's available to me. But that doesn't mean we'd all be screwed if google stopped existing tomorrow.

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