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1. gdubs+Z[view] [source] 2025-06-02 21:18:21
>>tablet+(OP)
One thing that I find truly amazing is just the simple fact that you can now be fuzzy with the input you give a computer, and get something meaningful in return. Like, as someone who grew up learning to code in the 90s it always seemed like science fiction that we'd get to a point where you could give a computer some vague human level instructions and get it more or less do what you want.
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2. csalle+z1[view] [source] 2025-06-02 21:22:05
>>gdubs+Z
It's mind blowing. At least 1-2x/week I find myself shocked that this is the reality we live in
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3. malfis+Y5[view] [source] 2025-06-02 21:45:03
>>csalle+z1
Today I had a dentist appointment and the dentist suggested I switch toothpaste lines to see if something else works for my sensitivity better.

I am predisposed to canker sores and if I use a toothpaste with SLS in it I'll get them. But a lot of the SLS free toothpastes are new age hippy stuff and is also fluoride free.

I went to chatgpt and asked it to suggest a toothpaste that was both SLS free and had fluoride. Pretty simple ask right?

It came back with two suggestions. It's top suggestion had SLS, it's backup suggestion lacked fluoride.

Yes, it is mind blowing the world we live in. Executives want to turn our code bases over to these tools

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4. Game_E+kp[view] [source] 2025-06-02 23:49:35
>>malfis+Y5
What model and query did you use? I used the prompt "find me a toothpaste that is both SLS free and has fluoride" and both GPT-4o [0] and o4-mini-high [1] gave me correct first answers. The 4o answer used the newish "show products inline" feature which made it easier to jump to each product and check it out (I am putting aside my fear this feature will end up kill their web product with monetization).

0 - https://chatgpt.com/share/683e3807-0bf8-800a-8bab-5089e4af51...

1 - https://chatgpt.com/share/683e3558-6738-800a-a8fb-3adc20b69d...

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5. jvande+Tr[view] [source] 2025-06-03 00:10:46
>>Game_E+kp
This is the thing that gets me about LLM usage. They can be amazing revolutionary tech and yes they can also be nearly impossible to use right. The claim that they are going to replace this or that is hampered by the fact that there is very real skill required (at best) or just won't work most the time (at worst). Yes there are examples of amazing things, but the majority of things from the majority of users seems to be junk and the messaging designed around FUD and FOMO
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6. mediam+3C[view] [source] 2025-06-03 01:45:52
>>jvande+Tr
Just like some people who wrote long sentences into Google in 2000 and complained it was a fad.

Meanwhile the rest of the world learned how to use it.

We have a choice. Ignore the tool or learn to use it.

(There was lots of dumb hype then, too; the sort of hype that skeptics latched on to to carry the burden of their argument that the whole thing was a fad.)

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7. spaqin+SH[view] [source] 2025-06-03 02:45:39
>>mediam+3C
Arguably, the people who typed long sentences into Google have won; the people who learned how to use it early on with specific keywords now get meaningless results.
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8. HappMa+5S[view] [source] 2025-06-03 04:51:32
>>spaqin+SH
Nah, both keywords and long sentences get meaningless results from Google these days (including their falsely authoritative Bard claims).

I view Bard as a lot like the yesman lacky that tries to pipe in to every question early, either cheating off other's work or even more frequently failing to accurately cheat off of other's work, largely in hopes that you'll be in too much of a hurry to mistake it's voice for that of another (eg, mistake the AI breakdown for a first hit result snippet) and faceplant as a result of their faulty intel.

Gemini gets me relatively decent answers .. only after 60 seconds of CoT. Bard answers in milliseconds and its lack of effort really shows through.

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9. Fillig+bq1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 10:51:56
>>HappMa+5S
Just to nitpick: The AI results on google search are Magi (a much smaller model), not Gemini.

And definitely not Bard, because that no longer exists, to my annoyance. It was a much better name.

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10. johnec+XO1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 13:43:27
>>Fillig+bq1
That was a pretty funny little maneuver from Google.

Google: Look at our new chatbot! It's called Bard, and it's going to blow ChatGPT out of the water!

Bard: Hallucinates JWST achievements when prompted for an ad.

Google: Doesn't fact check, posts the ad

Alphabet stock price: Drops 16% in a week

Google: Look at our new chatbot! It's called Gemini, and it's going to blow ChatGPT out of the water!

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