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1. matthe+y41[view] [source] 2025-06-03 06:58:13
>>tablet+(OP)
I think this article is pretty spot on — it articulates something I’ve come to appreciate about LLM-assisted coding over the past few months.

I started out very sceptical. When Claude Code landed, I got completely seduced — borderline addicted, slot machine-style — by what initially felt like a superpower. Then I actually read the code. It was shockingly bad. I swung back hard to my earlier scepticism, probably even more entrenched than before.

Then something shifted. I started experimenting. I stopped giving it orders and began using it more like a virtual rubber duck. That made a huge difference.

It’s still absolute rubbish if you just let it run wild, which is why I think “vibe coding” is basically just “vibe debt” — because it just doesn’t do what most (possibly uninformed) people think it does.

But if you treat it as a collaborator — more like an idiot savant with a massive brain but no instinct or nous — or better yet, as a mech suit [0] that needs firm control — then something interesting happens.

I’m now at a point where working with Claude Code is not just productive, it actually produces pretty good code, with the right guidance. I’ve got tests, lots of them. I’ve also developed a way of getting Claude to document intent as we go, which helps me, any future human reader, and, crucially, the model itself when revisiting old code.

What fascinates me is how negative these comments are — how many people seem closed off to the possibility that this could be a net positive for software engineers rather than some kind of doomsday.

Did Photoshop kill graphic artists? Did film kill theatre? Not really. Things changed, sure. Was it “better”? There’s no counterfactual, so who knows? But change was inevitable.

What’s clear is this tech is here now, and complaining about it feels a bit like mourning the loss of punch cards when terminals showed up.

[0]: https://matthewsinclair.com/blog/0178-why-llm-powered-progra...

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2. whazor+cb1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 08:07:18
>>matthe+y41
The key is that manual coding for a normal task takes a one/two weeks, where-as if you configure all your prompts/agents correctly you could do it in a couple of hours. As you highlighted, it brings many new issues (code quality, lack of tests, tech debt) and you need to carefully create prompts and review the code to tackle those. But in the end, you can save significant time.
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3. mdavid+gl1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 10:00:30
>>whazor+cb1
I disagree. I think this notion comes from the idea that creating software is about coding. Automating/improving coding => you have software at the end.

This might be how one looks at it in the beginning, when having no experience or no idea about coding. With time one will realize it's more about creating the correct mental model of the problem at hand, rather than the activity of coding itself.

Once this realized, AI can't "save" you days of work, as coding is the least time consuming part of creating software.

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4. rerdav+Tm1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 10:14:29
>>mdavid+gl1
The actual most time-consuming parts of creating software (I think) is reading documentation for the APIs and libraries you're using. Probably the biggest productivity boost I get from my coding assistant is attributable to that.

e.g: MUI, typescript:

   // make the checkbox label appear before the checkbox.
Tab. Done. Delete the comment.

vs. about 2 minutes wading through the perfectly excellent but very verbose online documentation to find that I need to set the "labelPlacement" attribute to "start".

Or the tedious minutia that I am perfectly capable of doing, but it's time consuming and error-prone:

    // execute a SQL update
Tab tab tab tab .... Done, with all bindings and fields done, based on the structure that's passed as a parameter to the method, and the tables and fieldnames that were created in source code above the current line. (love that one).
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5. andybp+4v1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 11:30:36
>>rerdav+Tm1
what are you using for this? one thing I can't wrap my head around is how anyone's idea of fun is poking at an LLM until it generates something possibly passable and then figuring what the hell it did and why, but this sounds like something i'd actually use.
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6. calvin+Zx1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 11:58:03
>>andybp+4v1
vscode?
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7. andybp+DA1[view] [source] 2025-06-03 12:20:33
>>calvin+Zx1
vscode comes with that out of the box?
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