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>>tablet+(OP)
I have one very specific retort to the 'you are still responsible' point. High school kids write lots of notes. The notes frequently never get read, but the performance is worse without them: the act of writing them embeds them into your head. I allegedly know how to use a debugger, but I haven't in years: but for a number I could count on my fingers, nearly every bug report I have gotten I know exactly down to the line of code where it comes from, because I wrote it or something next to it (or can immediately ask someone who probably did). You don't get that with AI. The codebase is always new. Everything must be investigated carefully. When stuff slips through code review, even if it is a mistake you might have made, you would remember that you made it. When humans do not do the work, humans do not accrue the experience. (This may still be a good tradeoff, I haven't run any numbers. But it's not such an obvious tradeoff as TFA implies.)

>>pie_fl+33
The important thing you are missing is that the learning landscape has now changed.

You are now responsible for learning how to use LLMs well. If an untrained vibe coder is more productive for me, while knowing nothing about how the code actually works, I will hire the vibe coder instead of you.

Learning is important, but it's most important that you learn how to use the best tools available so you can be productive. LLMs are not going away and they will only get better, so today that means you are responsible for learning how to use them, and that is already more important for most many roles than learning how to code yourself.

>>mgracz+M8
This is actually a good reason for exiting the industry before one's job goes away. Steering AI to barf up the right-looking pool of vomit is not the Flow-generating experience that many people have started to program for.

>>Mofpof+9m
There is room to move up the developer hierarchy at the company I work for, but I refuse to take that path for this very reason. The leadership has bought into AI as some kind of panacea, plus the company's plans to replace hundreds of human administrators in our B2C operations with AI strike me as downright evil.