zlacker

>>tablet+(OP)
I like Thomas, but I find his arguments include the same fundamental mistake I see made elsewhere. He acknowledged that the tools need an expert to use properly, and as he illustrated, he refined his expertise over many years. He is of the first and last generation of experienced programmers who learned without LLM assistance. How is someone just coming out of school going to get the encouragement and space to independently develop the experience they need to break out of the "vibe coding" phase? I can almost anticipate an interjection along the lines of "well we used to build everything with our hands and now we have tools etc, it's just different" but this is an order of magnitude different. This is asking a robot to design and assemble a shed for you, and you never even see the saw, nails, and hammer being used, let alone understand enough about how the different materials interact to get much more than a "vibe" for how much weight the roof might support.

>>parado+4u
>How is someone just coming out of school going to get the encouragement and space to independently develop the experience they need to break out of the "vibe coding" phase?

Dunno. Money is probably going to be a huge incentive.

I see the same argument everywhere. Like animators getting their start tweening other peoples content. AI is great at tweening and likely to replace farms of juniors. But companies will need seniors to direct animation, so they will either have to pay a lot of money to find them or pay a lot of money to train them.

>>protoc+RC
Well this is actually happening in Japanese Animation and the result is that no young talents are getting trained in the workforce. [1]

But unlike animation, where the demand for the art can just disappear. I don't think the demand for software engineer will disappear. Same thing with musician. Young engineers might just be jobless or on training mode for much longer period of time before they can make actual living money.

Good thing is, as far as I know, Kyoto Animation managed to avoid this issue by having in-house training, growing their own talent pools.

[1]: https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2023/03/31/the-long-quest-to-fi...