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>>tablet+(OP)
Soon all coding will look like L3 support - debugging something you've never seen before, and under pressure. AI is really taking away the fun parts from everything and leaving just the drudgery in place.

>>storus+g4
The key is to figure out how to move up the ladder of abstraction. You don't want to be a "coder" in a world where AI can code, but you do want to be a "person who makes software" in a world where making software just got easier.

>>sander+Ih
Most people who chose the profession don’t want that, though. They like the coding, and dislike managing.

>>layer8+Zi
How does "person who makes software" imply "managing"?

I understand that "coding" is the fun part for lots of people, especially younger people. This is me as well, so I'm definitely sympathetic to it, and feel quite a bit of sadness about this.

Lots of people also enjoy woodworking and machining by hand, but that's not how most furniture or machines are made.

If I were independently wealthy, I might well spend some of my time making artisan software, but as a professional and entrepreneur, I'm going to try to use efficient tools for the job.

>>sander+ak
This relates to the analogy that an LLM is like a junior developer that you have to instruct and guide, and whose work you have supervise and review. Working with an LLM is similar to managing people as a tech lead. And once LLM agents get smart enough and reliable enough, the work will be similar to that of a product manager, project leader, CTO, or even CEO.

If you like being an entrepreneur, you’re already different from most professional software developers.

>>layer8+Ol
I'm aware of that analogy, and thought that might be what you were alluding to, but I don't think it's a good analogy.

I agree with you that most professional software developers don't like being entrepreneurs, but I think that has more to do with disliking the parts of entrepreneurship that don't fit into "person who makes software", like fundraising and marketing.

But I think many - maybe most, but not all - professional software engineers actually do enjoy "making software", generally, and not just "coding", narrowly.