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1. capnre+15[view] [source] 2025-06-02 21:39:49
>>tablet+(OP)
The argument seems to be that for an expert programmer, who is capable of reading and understanding AI agent code output and merging it into a codebase, AI agents are great.

Question: If everyone uses AI to code, how does someone become an expert capable of carefully reading and understanding code and acting as an editor to an AI?

The expert skills needed to be an editor -- reading code, understanding its implications, knowing what approaches are likely to cause problems, recognizing patterns that can be refactored, knowing where likely problems lie and how to test them, holding a complex codebase in memory and knowing where to find things -- currently come from long experience writing code.

But a novice who outsources their thinking to an LLM or an agent (or both) will never develop those skills on their own. So where will the experts come from?

I think of this because of my job as a professor; many of the homework assignments we use to develop thinking skills are now obsolete because LLMs can do them, permitting the students to pass without thinking. Perhaps there is another way to develop the skills, but I don't know what it is, and in the mean time I'm not sure how novices will learn to become experts.

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2. AstroB+Gp[view] [source] 2025-06-02 23:52:27
>>capnre+15
I've had a lot of success using LLMs to deepen my understanding of topics. Give them an argument, and have them give the best points against it. Consider them, iterate. Argue against it and let it counter. It's a really good rubber duck

> The expert skills... currently come from long experience writing code

Do they? Is it the writing that's important? Or is it the thinking that goes along with it? What's stopping someone from going through LLM output, going back and forth on design decisions with the LLM, and ultimately making the final choice of how the tool should mold the codebase after seeing the options

I mean of course this requires some proactive effort on your part.. but it always did

The key point I think though is to not outsource your thinking. You can't blindly trust the output. It's a modern search engine

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3. _tom_+Xu[view] [source] 2025-06-03 00:38:26
>>AstroB+Gp
I think it's the writing.

I learned long ago that I could read a book, study it, think about it. And I still would really master the material until I built with it.

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