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>>tablet+(OP)
I’d love to see the authors of effusive praise of generative AI like this provide the proof of the unlimited powers of their tools in code. If GAI (or agents, or whatever comes next …) is so effective it should be quite simple to prove that by creating an AI only company and in short order producing huge amounts of serviceable code to do useful things. So far I’ve seen no sign of this, and the best use case seems to be generating text or artwork which fools humans into thinking it has coherent meaning as our minds love to fill gaps and spot patterns even where there are none. It’s also pretty good at reproducing things it has seen with variations - that can be useful.

So far in my experience watching small to medium sized companies try to use it for real work, it has been occasionally useful for exploring apis, odd bits of knowledge etc, but overall wasted more time than it has saved. I see very few signs of progress.

The time has come for llm users to put up or shut up - if it’s so great, stop telling us and show and use the code it generated on its own.

>>grey-a+ba
Yeah exactly.

Whats nuts is watching all these people shill for something that we all have used to mediocre results. Obviously Fly.io benefits if people start hosting tons of slopped together AI projects on their platform.

Its kinda sad to watch what I thought was a good company shill for AI. Even if they are not directly getting money from some PR contract.

We must not be prompting hard enough....

>>citize+Kb
> Whats nuts is watching all these people shill for something that we all have used to mediocre results.

this sort of post is the start of next phase in the battle for mindshare

the tools are at the very best mediocre replacements for google, and the people with a vested interest in promoting them know this, so they switch to attacking critics of the approach

> Its kinda sad to watch what I thought was a good company shill for AI.

yeah, I was sad too, then I scrolled up and saw the author. double sadness.

>>blibbl+af
If you really think that feel free to continue with business as usual. I just hope you're not at a stack ranking company, or you are politically savvy though, because otherwise you're going to be in for a real shock in the next few years as your peers build their AI skills, tooling matures and models improve. A skilled dev with a well tuned agentic workflow can already finish non-trivial 5k LoC projects in a day, complete with copious tests and documentation, just imagine when the ecosystem has matured and the majority of your coworkers are hip to the game.