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1. mjburg+q4[view] [source] 2025-06-02 21:36:07
>>tablet+(OP)
Can we get a video of a workday conducted by these people?

Unless there's a significant sense of what people are working on, and how LLMs are helping -- there's no point engaging -- there's no detail here.

Sure, if your job is to turn out tweaks to a wordpress theme, presumably that's now 10x faster. If its to work on a new in-house electric motor in C for some machine, presumably that's almost entirely unaffected.

No doubt junior web programmers working on a task backlog, specifically designed for being easy for juniors, are loving LLMs.

I use LLMs all the time, but each non-trivial programming project that has to move out of draft-stage needs rewriting. In several cases, to such a degree that the LLM was a net impediment.

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2. ryukop+ae[view] [source] 2025-06-02 22:35:14
>>mjburg+q4
I write embedded firmware for wireless mesh networks and satcom. Blend of Rust and C.

I spent ~4 months using Copilot last year for hobby projects, and it was a pretty disappointing experience. At its best, it was IntelliSense but slower. At its worst, it was trying to inject 30 lines of useless BS.

I only realized there was an "agent" in VS Code because they hijacked my ctrl+i shortcut in a recent update. You can't point it at a private API without doing some GitHub org-level nonsense. As far as my job is concerned, it's a non-feature until you can point it your own API without jumping through hoops.

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3. ramraj+3f[view] [source] 2025-06-02 22:39:33
>>ryukop+ae
You used one AI tool that was never more than autocomplete a year ago and you think you have a full hold of all that AI offers today? That's like reviewing thai food when you've only had Chinese food.
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4. ryukop+Jl[view] [source] 2025-06-02 23:22:46
>>ramraj+3f
>you think you have a full hold of all that AI offers today?

I absolutely don't, and I'd love if you could highlight a spot where I suggested I was. As I said, the problem isn't that I don't want to try using an agent, the problem is that I can't because one incredibly basic feature is missing from VS Code's agent thing.

I'll occasionally use chatbots, mostly for spitballing non-professional stuff. They seem to do well with ideation questions like "I'm making X, what are some approaches I could take to do Y?" In other words, I've found that they're good at bullshitting and making lists. I like R1-1776, but that's only because Perplexity Playground seems less restricted than some of the other chatbots.

It's also nice for generating some boilerplate bash stuff, when I need that kind of thing. I don't need that very often, though.

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