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1. 0_____+U5[view] [source] 2025-05-28 13:44:58
>>NotInO+(OP)
I was just kvetching about this to my partner over breakfast. Not exactly, but a parallel observation, that a lot of people are just kind of shit at their jobs.

The utility tech who turned my tiny gas leak into a larger gas leak and left.

The buildings around me that take the better part of a decade to build (really? A parking garage takes six years?)

Cops who have decided it's their job to do as little as possible.

Where I live, it seems like half the streets don't have street signs (this isn't a backwater where you'd expect this, it's Boston).

I made acquaintance to a city worker who, to her non-professional friends, is very proud that she takes home a salary for about two hours of work per day following up with contractors, then heading to the gym and making social plans.

There's a culture of indifference, an embrace of mediocrity. I don't think it's new, but I do think perhaps AI has given the lazy and prideless an even lower energy route to... I'm not sure. What is the goal?

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2. sp0rk+ic[view] [source] 2025-05-28 14:28:05
>>0_____+U5
> There's a culture of indifference, an embrace of mediocrity. I don't think it's new, but I do think perhaps AI has given the lazy and prideless an even lower energy route to... I'm not sure. What is the goal?

I think pride in work has declined a lot (at least in the US) because so many large employers have shown that they aren't even willing to pretend to care about their employees. It's difficult to take pride in work done for an employee that you aren't proud of, or actively dislike.

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3. palmot+Mf[view] [source] 2025-05-28 14:48:46
>>sp0rk+ic
>> There's a culture of indifference, an embrace of mediocrity. I don't think it's new, but I do think perhaps AI has given the lazy and prideless an even lower energy route to... I'm not sure. What is the goal?

> I think pride in work has declined a lot (at least in the US) because so many large employers have shown that they aren't even willing to pretend to care about their employees. It's difficult to take pride in work done for an employee that you aren't proud of, or actively dislike.

Also don't discount the pressure exerted by employers to explicitly encourage mediocrity. So often, there's a huge amount of pressure to implement a half-working kludge and never pursue a more appropriate/complete fix. IMHO, it's all due to the focus on short-term financial results and ever present budget pressures that encourage kicking the can down the road.

If your employer is explicitly discouraging you from doing a good job, what are you supposed to do? Some people will resist, but they're definitely swimming against the current.

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4. deadba+Ki[view] [source] 2025-05-28 15:05:03
>>palmot+Mf
Unfortunately it’s becoming more obvious that “short-term” is all we really have in this world. There is no long term.

So why plan for long term? Life is a series of short-term wins until you finally die. Same with companies. Things change so fast now that you could be crushing it one year and going out of business the next. It’s not like old days where you could setup a blacksmithing shop and have business for generations.

Results now are way better than results later.

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5. palmot+Tj[view] [source] 2025-05-28 15:12:22
>>deadba+Ki
> Unfortunately it’s becoming more obvious that “short-term” is all we really have in this world. There is no long term.

That's definitely not true. It sounds like a rationalization for the existing bad and unwise behavior.

> So why plan for long term? Life is a series of short-term wins until you finally die.

So, dump the untreated toxic waste into the river, then?

> Same with companies. Things change so fast now that you could be crushing it one year and going out of business the next. It’s not like old days where you could setup a blacksmithing shop and have business for generations.

Maybe if you're in some startup, but that's not the usual case.

> Results now are way better than results later.

So be "very proud [for taking] home a salary for about two hours of work per day following up with contractors, then heading to the gym and making social plans."?

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6. pixl97+4n[view] [source] 2025-05-28 15:26:55
>>palmot+Tj
>That's definitely not true. It sounds like a rationalization for the existing bad and unwise behavior.

You seem to miss that companies that think quarter to quarter behave just like this.

>So, dump the untreated toxic waste into the river, then?

You mean like the current administration that's trying to get rid of the EPA?

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7. palmot+Wn[view] [source] 2025-05-28 15:32:09
>>pixl97+4n
>> That's definitely not true. It sounds like a rationalization for the existing bad and unwise behavior.

> You seem to miss that companies that think quarter to quarter behave just like this.

Did I miss that, or was I commenting on that exact thing?

>> So, dump the untreated toxic waste into the river, then?

> You mean like the current administration that's trying to get rid of the EPA?

What's your point with that political derail? It's honestly baffling.

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8. yifanl+Zr[view] [source] 2025-05-28 15:51:42
>>palmot+Wn
It's not just a political derail to bring up a highly-visible example of the described behaviour. People don't care if they aren't forced to care, and in a world driven by deadlines, we're only motivated to care a certain amount.

There used to be an intrinsic motivator of "well, my kids are going to suffer if I don't push for long-term relationships", but now we aren't having kids, so that carrot doesn't work, and that attitude is bubbling up into the corporate world.

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9. Unreac+mu2[view] [source] 2025-05-29 12:07:14
>>yifanl+Zr
>bring up a highly-visible example

Sure, but let's be clear, we shouldn't be taking any lessons from the Trump regime on how to live in virtually any aspect in one's life. If anything they're a shining example of everything not to do.

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