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>>dale_h+(OP)
I found it hard to reconcile his charming and witty comic strips with some of the ugly things he wrote elsewhere. I would never usually throw a book away, but I made an exception for one of his books, because I didn't want anyone to see it on my bookshelf and I didn't want to give to anyone else.

>>hermit+US
People aren’t just one thing. They can be right about one thing and wrong about other things.

>>2muchc+Ue1
We already know that.

The more interesting question is: what do we do with the art of people who were revealed to be terrible? I first saw people wrestle with this idea for Michael Jackson and recently it has been a big issue related to Kanye West.

>>thephy+Oh1
The art was good. I remember Cat Stevens disappearing from the airwaves when Yusuf Islam emerged. You might feel differently about the art based on how it connects to the post-revelation artist. Michael Jackson was close to a genius. Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole.

>>quanti+kj1
It doesn’t help that Yusuf Islam called for the murder of Salman Rushdie live on TV, which connects his odiousness to his work in a way the other artists transgressions often aren’t.

>>ch4s3+nk1
"His odiousness" was less a personal jihad to see Rushdie killed and more the end result of ill considered comments about what different systems of law state after being drawn in and questioned on the contentious issue live.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_Stevens%27_comments_about_...

>>defros+Os1
Nonsense. Yusuf Islam is a Sunni Muslim and the fatwa wass issued by Ayatollah Khomeini, a Shia cleric. So there was no reason for him to recognize the fatwa as legitimate, and he literally said "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die."

There is no ambiguity here, Yusuf Islam called for Salman Rushdie's killing over a book that a Shia cleric claimed insulted the prophet. A book I might add that neither of them ever read. Later that year he again said Rushdie should be killed in a different context.

>>ch4s3+iS2
Only nonsense from a hard core fundementalist PoV really.

Any notion why you have such a PoV?

In the TV context it was clearly a rhetorical / hypothetical statement .. one of the two utterances was literally on a show titled "Hypotheticals" .. which I guess you watched along with reading the Qur'an, numerous commentaries, reading Rushdie's book, etc.

>>defros+9o4
according to wikipedia "it was just a joke bro" lol, at the time during the show, did anybody laugh? If its the video I just watched, nobody was laughing.

    In a statement in the FAQ section of one of his websites, Islam asserted
    that while he regretted the comments, he was joking and that the show was 
    improperly edited.[94]

I just don't see how the video I watched could have been editted in such a way that would misconstrue the words I just saw mouthed by this guy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2750537/Video-1...

>>cowboy+W35
> I just don't see how the video I watched could have been editted ..

The video you linked has been edited twice .. once from raw live footage in order to create the TV panel show that went to air, and again a second time to extract and join short specific sections from the TV show to create the segment you linked .. with additional voice over added.

The original TV footage appears to have been sourced from Geoffrey Robertson's Hypotheticals.

The very name "Hypotheticals" might indicate to you how you the second round of editing has led you astray.

The segment you linked has removed all context .. there is nothing of Geoffrey Robertson setting up a situation and instructing panel members "to imagine they are ...".

All you have there is a tight segment lacking the larger context with an added voice over claiming that this is Islam speaking from his heart as himself, nothing about being asked to play himself as a more fundemental true believer.