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1. Scene_+V4[view] [source] 2025-05-19 16:47:11
>>net01+(OP)
I tried doing some vibe coding on a greenfield project (using gemini 2.5 pro + cline). On one hand - super impressive, a major productivity booster (even compared to using a non-integrated LLM chat interface).

I noticed that LLMs need a very heavy hand in guiding the architecture, otherwise they'll add architectural tech debt. One easy example is that I noticed them breaking abstractions (putting things where they don't belong). Unfortunately, there's not that much self-retrospection on these aspects if you ask about the quality of the code or if there are any better ways of doing it. Of course, if you pick up that something is in the wrong spot and prompt better, they'll pick up on it immediately.

I also ended up blowing through $15 of LLM tokens in a single evening. (Previously, as a heavy LLM user including coding tasks, I was averaging maybe $20 a month.)

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2. candid+v7[view] [source] 2025-05-19 16:58:59
>>Scene_+V4
> I also ended up blowing through $15 of LLM tokens in a single evening.

This is a feature, not a bug. LLMs are going to be the next "OMG my AWS bill" phenomenon.

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3. Scene_+E9[view] [source] 2025-05-19 17:09:37
>>candid+v7
Cline very visibly displays the ongoing cost of the task. Light edits are about 10 cents, and heavy stuff can run a couple of bucks. It's just that the tab accumulates faster than I expect.
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4. eterm+Lq[view] [source] 2025-05-19 18:29:29
>>Scene_+E9
> Light edits are about 10 cents

Some well-paid developers will excuse this with, "Well if it saved me 5 minutes, it's worth an order of magnitude than 10 cents".

Which is true, however there's a big caveat: Time saved isn't time gained.

You can "Save" 1,000 hours every night, but you don't actuall get those 1,000 hours back.

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5. djtang+4j1[view] [source] 2025-05-20 00:23:17
>>eterm+Lq
Huh? What happens if you stop using your washing machine and go back to hand washing everything?
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6. eterm+BR3[view] [source] 2025-05-20 21:50:53
>>djtang+4j1
If you earn more than me, then if you value "time saved" then you should pay me to take my washing off me. Because then you can save even more of your valuable time!

The more of my washing you can take off me, the more of your time you can save by then using a washing machine or laundry service!

Saving an hour of my time is a waste, when saving an hour of your time is worth so much more. So it makes economic sense for you to pay me, to take my washing off me!

( Does that better illustrate my point? )

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