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[return to "Perverse incentives of vibe coding"]
1. vansch+T6[view] [source] 2025-05-14 20:18:12
>>laurex+(OP)
> Its “almost there” quality — the feeling we’re just one prompt away from the perfect solution — is what makes it so addicting. Vibe coding operates on the principle of variable-ratio reinforcement, a powerful form of operant conditioning where rewards come unpredictably. Unlike fixed rewards, this intermittent success pattern (“the code works! it’s brilliant! it just broke! wtf!”), triggers stronger dopamine responses in our brain’s reward pathways, similar to gambling behaviors.

Though I'm not a "vibe coder" myself I very much recognize this as part of the "appeal" of GenAI tools more generally. Trying to get Image Generators to do what I want has a very "gambling-like" quality to it.

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2. dingnu+L7[view] [source] 2025-05-14 20:24:50
>>vansch+T6
it's not like gambling, it is gambling. you exchange dollars for chips (tokens -- some casinos even call the chips tokens) and insert it into the machine in exchange for the chance of a prize.

if it doesn't work the first time you pull the lever, it might the second time, and it might not. Either way, the house wins.

It should be regulated as gambling, because it is. There's no metaphor, the only difference from a slot machine is that AI will never output cash directly, only the possibility of an output that could make money. So if you're lucky with your first gamble, it'll give you a second one to try.

Gambling all the way down.

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3. ableto+ri[view] [source] 2025-05-14 21:34:13
>>dingnu+L7
Yikes. The reactionary reach for more regulation from a certain group is just so tiresome. This is the real mind virus that I wish would be contained in Europe.

I almost can't believe this idea is being seriously considered by anybody. By that logic buying any CPU is gambling because it's not deterministic how far you can overclock it.

Just so you know, not every llm use case requires paying for tokens. You can even run a local LLM and use cline w/ it for all your coding needs. Pull that slot machine lever as many times as you like without spending a dollar.

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4. slurpy+ap[view] [source] 2025-05-14 22:32:57
>>ableto+ri
Do you understand what electricity is?
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5. ableto+JF[view] [source] 2025-05-15 01:21:30
>>slurpy+ap
Oh so now you think because it consumes some resource it's gambling? Would you say farming is gambling because it consumes water and time and you won't know what the result will be?
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