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1. segpha+J4[view] [source] 2025-05-06 15:34:48
>>meetpa+(OP)
My frustration with using these models for programming in the past has largely been around their tendency to hallucinate APIs that simply don't exist. The Gemini 2.5 models, both pro and flash, seem significantly less susceptible to this than any other model I've tried.

There are still significant limitations, no amount of prompting will get current models to approach abstraction and architecture the way a person does. But I'm finding that these Gemini models are finally able to replace searches and stackoverflow for a lot of my day-to-day programming.

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2. jstumm+jH[view] [source] 2025-05-06 19:23:17
>>segpha+J4
> no amount of prompting will get current models to approach abstraction and architecture the way a person does

I find this sentiment increasingly worrisome. It's entirely clear that every last human will be beaten on code design in the upcoming years (I am not going to argue if it's 1 or 5 years away, who cares?)

I wished people would just stop holding on to what amounts to nothing, and think and talk more about what can be done in a new world. We need good ideas and I think this could be a place to advance them.

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3. DanHul+2P[view] [source] 2025-05-06 20:14:54
>>jstumm+jH
> It's entirely clear that every last human will be beaten on code design in the upcoming years

Citation needed. In fact, I think this pretty clearly hits the "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" bar.

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4. Arthur+OG1[view] [source] 2025-05-07 05:25:33
>>DanHul+2P
Beating humans isnt really what matters. Its enabling developers to design who cant.

Last month I had a staff member design and build a distributed system that would be far beyond their capabilities without AI assistance. As a business owner this allows me to reduce the dependency and power of the senior devs.

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5. auggie+TH1[view] [source] 2025-05-07 05:42:27
>>Arthur+OG1
Hehe, have fun with that distributed system down the line.
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6. Arthur+zJ1[view] [source] 2025-05-07 06:06:35
>>auggie+TH1
Why? We fully checked the design, what he built, and it was fully tested over weeks for security and stability.

Don't parrot what you read online that these systems are unable do this stuff. It's from the clueless or devs coping. Not only are they capable but theyre improving by the month.

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7. auggie+iQ1[view] [source] 2025-05-07 07:35:00
>>Arthur+zJ1
Oh, they are definitely capable, I am using them every day, and build my own MCP servers. But you cannot test a distributed system "fully". The only test I believe in is understanding every single line of code myself, or knowing that somebody else does. At this point, I don't trust the AI for anything, although it makes a very valuable assistant.

Very soon our AI built software systems will break down in spectacular and never before seen ways, and I'll have the product to help with that.

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8. Arthur+xU1[view] [source] 2025-05-07 08:27:50
>>auggie+iQ1
I have no idea why you think you can't test a distributed system. Hopefully you are not in the business of software development. You certainly wouldnt be working at my company.

Secondly, people are not just blindly having AI write code with no idea how it works. The AI is acting as a senior consultant helping the developer to design and build the systems and generating parts of the code as they work together.

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