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1. rester+c51[view] [source] 2025-05-06 13:44:03
>>swyx+(OP)
- A $3B signal that OpenAI is unable to do product

- AI assisted coding is mostly about managing the context and knowing what to put in the context to avoid confusion and dumb mistakes, it's not about the UI.

- This signals that OpenAI believes that highly effective coding assistant LLMs will become a commodity / open source and so UI / tooling lock-in is a good investment.

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2. herval+3o1[view] [source] 2025-05-06 15:26:20
>>rester+c51
chatgpt is massively popular, I'm not sure that's the signal I'd get

they're acquiring one of the biggest the front doors to developers, with Windsurf - whether it'll _remain_ in fashion or not, that's a different debate. This can be like facebook acquiring instagram (if developers turn out to be the actual profit-driver niche for LLMs, which currently seems to be the case)

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3. rester+EO1[view] [source] 2025-05-06 17:56:14
>>herval+3o1
> developers turn out to be the actual profit-driver niche for LLMs

AI is definitely huge for anyone writing code, though one can imagine a model like o3 completely replacing 90% of white collar jobs that involve reading, writing and analysis.

Interestingly, o3 is particularly bad at legalese, likely not fully by accident. Of all professions whose professional organizations and regulatory capture create huge rents, the legal profession is the most ripe for disruption.

It's not uncommon for lawyers to bill $250 to $500 per hour for producing boilerplate language. Contracts reviewed or drawn up by lawyers never come with any guarantees either, so one does not learn until too late that the lawyer overlooked something important. Most lawyers have above average IQs and understand arcane things, but most of it is pretty basic at its core.

Lawyers, Pharmacists, many doctors, nearly all accountants, and most middle managers will be replaceable by AI agents.

Software engineers are still expected to produce novel outputs unlike those other fields, so there is still room for humans to pilot the machine for a while. And since most software is meant to be used by humans, soon software will need to be usable by AI agents, which will reduce a lot of UI to an MCP.

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4. noitpm+gT1[view] [source] 2025-05-06 18:26:15
>>rester+EO1
Your take on lawyers is absolutely insane. If you don't think the extremely specialized and well trained professionals can successfully navigate contracts then I can't wait for the absolute garbage the LLMs spit out when faced with similar challenges.

Honestly, same for doctors and accountants. Unless these model providers are willing to provide "guarantees" that they will compensate for damages faced as a result of their output.

Doctors and Lawyers are required in many areas to carry malpractice insurance. Good luck getting "hot new AI legal startup" to sign off on that.

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5. owebma+Qv2[view] [source] 2025-05-06 22:59:29
>>noitpm+gT1
> Unless these model providers are willing to provide "guarantees" that they will compensate for damages faced as a result of their output.

That's how we will get to $20,000/month agents.

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6. djha-s+DC2[view] [source] 2025-05-07 00:12:28
>>owebma+Qv2
They only have to be slightly cheaper than hiring doctors and lawyers though.
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