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1. jgb198+Wg4[view] [source] 2025-04-15 23:01:44
>>scared+(OP)
LLM anything makes me queasy. Why would any self respecting software developer use this tripe? Learn how to write good software. Become an expert in the trade. AI anything will only dig a hole for software to die in. Cheapens the product, butchers the process and absolutely decimates any hope for skill development for future junior developers.

I'll just keep chugging along, with debian, python and vim, as I always have. No LLM, no LSP, heck not even autocompletion. But damn proud of every hand crafted, easy to maintain and fully understood line of code I'll write.

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2. SkyPun+2r4[view] [source] 2025-04-16 00:33:01
>>jgb198+Wg4
> Why would any self respecting software developer use this tripe?

Because I can ship 2x to 5x more code with nearly the same quality.

My employer isn't paying me to be a craftsman. They're paying me to ship things that make them money.

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3. ivan_g+Rw4[view] [source] 2025-04-16 01:27:17
>>SkyPun+2r4
How do you define code quality in this case and what is your stack?
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4. SkyPun+zW5[view] [source] 2025-04-16 14:15:28
>>ivan_g+Rw4
The definition of code quality is irrelevant to my argument as both human and AI written code are held to the same standard by the same measure (however arbitrary that measure is). 100 units of something vs 99 units of something is a 1 unit difference regardless of what the unit is.

By the time the AI is actually writing code, I've already had it do a robust architecture evaluation and review which it documents in a development plan. I review that development plan just like I'd review another engineers dev plan. It's pretty hard for it to write objectively bad code after that step.

Also, my day to day work is in an existing code base. Nearly every feature I build has existing patterns or reference code. LLMs do extremely well when you tell them "Build X feature. [some class] provides a similar implementation. Review that before starting." If I think something needs to be DRY'd up or refactored, I ask it to do that.

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