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1. Animat+5e[view] [source] 2025-04-08 20:52:57
>>todsac+(OP)
Cyc is going great, according to the web site. "The Next Generation of Enterprise AI"[1]

Lenat himself died in 2023. Despite this, he is listed as the only member of the "leadership team".[2]

[1] https://cyc.com/

[2] https://cyc.com/leadership-team/

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2. vitira+xS[view] [source] 2025-04-09 04:25:17
>>Animat+5e
Maybe Cyc was a success and Lenat lives on as it's consciousness?
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3. jibal+k81[view] [source] 2025-04-09 07:51:35
>>vitira+xS
Dead is dead. And even if Cyc had consciousness--which it doesn't--it certainly wouldn't have his consciousness.
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4. Cthulh+Ss1[view] [source] 2025-04-09 11:54:13
>>jibal+k81
It's an interesting thought experiment / philosophy / sci fi story premise though; if he spent all those years encoding his own thought processes and decision making into a program, would he have been able to create a convincing facsimile of himself and his "consciousness"? A turing test with a chatbot based on decades of self-reflection.
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5. jibal+8Db[view] [source] 2025-04-13 04:52:09
>>Cthulh+Ss1
You're completely moving the goalposts. And I don't find it interesting at all (I mean, I find the general subject interesting and have delved into it for decades but I don't find this sort of casual question based on no such research, trying to connect it to the wrong thing [Cyc] at all interesting) ... would he have been able to create a convincing facsimile? If and only if the encoding method were effective--that's a tautology. Was Lenat's methodology effective to that end? No, of course not, and that wasn't its intent.

"based on decades of self-reflection"

Daniel Dennett--sadly lost to us--explained in detail why "self-reflection" is not even remotely effective to this end ... our internal processes are almost entirely inaccessible to us.

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