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1. Taek+F1[view] [source] 2025-04-07 01:12:47
>>iambat+(OP)
Advertising is a parasitic force on society. It sucks up your attention with a willful intention to change your purchasing behaviour, often knowing that the new behavior is worse for you.

If ads were merely about being informative, they would be boring. But ads want to manipulate, so they have to be flashy and appeal to your emotions.

They pollute your mental headspace, and have no place in a healthy society.

Let's ban billboards. And then let's follow that up with a general purpose ban on paid advertisement.

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2. Burnin+T6[view] [source] 2025-04-07 01:59:23
>>Taek+F1
I think this is deeply and fundamentally wrong.

Advertising is how small and new companies can reach customers. It's how monopolies are broken. It's how progress reaches the masses.

Yes, it is willfully intended to change people's behavior. So are many of our posts on HN. That is an important purpose for communication!

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3. kelnos+m8[view] [source] 2025-04-07 02:11:37
>>Burnin+T6
I don't really care if companies -- of any size -- can reach me or not. If I want a service they provide, I will actively seek them out.

Large companies already have a huge advantage over small/new companies in that they have much more money to spend on marketing and advertising. If anything, banning paid advertising helps level the playing field.

People will still find out about small and new businesses if paid advertising was banned. In fact I learn about most smaller players through word of mouth and other non-paid sources.

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4. Kerric+Ca[view] [source] 2025-04-07 02:33:51
>>kelnos+m8
When you seek them out, how will you find them?
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5. TheDon+Lb[view] [source] 2025-04-07 02:46:35
>>Kerric+Ca
In the old days, if I wanted someone to remove a tree stump in my yard, I would ask my neighbor who had a stump removed who did it for them, or open the yellow pages.

In the modern age, I would open google maps (where companies can, for free, volunteer to be listed), or google.com and search.

The yellow pages are ads, and in a sense a company having a webpage which is indexed by google is advertising, but advertising in an index of services is wildly different from paying an influencer on tiktok to do a dance video that just happens to have a tree stump being removed in the background, as if by accident, with the company name visible.

I think anti-advertising people are largely fine with a yellow-pages-like list of companies, with a search engine that indexes company websites, with word-of-mouth questions and reports about what services exist out there.

Will it be harder for a new company that spends $10 on a purse made in vietnam and $20MM on advertising to convince consumers it's a necessary fashion item worth $20k to take off? Yes, absolutely. Will it be harder for a plumber in my area to get business? Honestly, probably about the same, people who need a plumber will usually look at the list of businesses offering the service in their area, and a new plumber can easily get added to google maps and slap together a site.

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6. sanswo+Ue[view] [source] 2025-04-07 03:19:27
>>TheDon+Lb
Who is paying for Google to run the search system or maps in this world?
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7. TheDon+3l[view] [source] 2025-04-07 04:25:05
>>sanswo+Ue
I pay for kagi, and that works okay.

I would prefer if this search-engine / company-directory were government funded, and thus paid for via my taxes.

It's a useful service for the people, and having the government also be able to validate businesses are real legal entities seems quite useful, so making it tax funded seems pretty ideal.

Ditto for an up-to-date map, that's a generally useful thing to the populace, and the government really is the best authority on what streets are still usable, what towns exist, etc.

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