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1. gamema+8i[view] [source] 2025-04-05 20:03:36
>>smnrg+(OP)
This feels very similar in my mind to blanket concepts like "let's ban lobbying". There are certainly specific modes or practices in lobbying that are damaging to society, but lobbying itself (specifically, informing lawmakers about your specific perspective and desires) is a valid and desirable function.

Likewise, advertising on its own at its core is useful: there might be something that adds value to your life that someone else is trying to provide and the only missing link is that you don't know about it.

In both cases, it seems totally fine to have strict guardrails about what kinds of practices we deem not okay (e.g. banning advertising to children, or banning physical ads larger than some size or in some locations), but the extreme take of the article felt like it intentionally left no room for nuance.

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2. Henchm+il[view] [source] 2025-04-05 20:30:22
>>gamema+8i
Why should we be open to nuance when we’re being actively manipulated? Cease manipulating me and I will hear them out on the nuances, provided the advertisers can articulate it.
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3. gamema+Sl[view] [source] 2025-04-05 20:36:10
>>Henchm+il
Someone telling you about a product is not manipulating you. Tracking or certain ad practices might be manipulative, and it's fine to push back against or ban that manipulation, but that is not at all inherent to advertising.
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4. Henchm+4w[view] [source] 2025-04-05 22:16:06
>>gamema+Sl
Feeding people lines about what “they need” or what their neighbors might be doing is manipulative. All advertising attempts to be manipulative, IMO.

But, I’ll play along for a moment: If trying to convince people they need something that oftentimes they simply don’t isn’t manipulation, then what is it? It isn’t simply informative because it’s attempting to change one’s mind.

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5. gamema+cV[view] [source] 2025-04-06 03:45:14
>>Henchm+4w
I think we might disagree in terms of the kinds of advertising we're talking about.

The best advertising for me is showing me a product and showing me how it's used -- the "Coca Cola will make you have friends and have a good time" style ads could be construed as manipulative, I totally get that, but if I see an ad that just says "here's the product, here's what it does" for a product that _actually_ solves a problem I have, that's pretty great in my book, and is a win-win for me and whoever makes the product.

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6. barnab+ff1[view] [source] 2025-04-06 09:14:44
>>gamema+cV
> “here’s the product, here’s what it does”

Belongs in catalogues, store listings, the manufacturers website, product search engines, not forced into view when you’re trying to do something else.

It’d be perfectly reasonable even to have sites listing or aggregating new and updated products, or social media accounts that post about interesting [new or otherwise] products, as long as they’re not paid to place or promote products, too.

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