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[return to "Google will develop Android OS behind closed doors starting next week"]
1. sorami+yj[view] [source] 2025-03-26 19:34:20
>>joseph+(OP)
This really reminds me of Open Solaris.

> We will no longer distribute source code for the entirety of the Solaris operating system in real-time

In the case of Open Solaris, the code never came out from that point onwards. For Android, the likely end goal is to do the bare minimum of distributing only copyleft code that they don't own copyright to. Until those get replaced with a closed alternative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=2482s

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2. donmcr+gC[view] [source] 2025-03-26 21:04:42
>>sorami+yj
Yep. An open source license doesn't mean anything if a project is dependent on a single company for ongoing development.
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3. Anthon+QQ[view] [source] 2025-03-26 22:29:54
>>donmcr+gC
The weird thing is, why is that the case?

I'm trying to think of a mobile OS feature addition that has made me say "I need to upgrade my phone" and it just hasn't happened recently. It's more like, damn it, the dastardly thing stopped receiving security updates and now I have to replace it for no good reason.

Isn't Android done yet? What further development is required that couldn't be done by the community?

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4. desden+KU[view] [source] 2025-03-26 22:58:12
>>Anthon+QQ
The point is it doesn't have a developer community that could maintain the project without Google.
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5. Anthon+CM1[view] [source] 2025-03-27 09:36:46
>>desden+KU
It doesn't have one because Google is doing it and then publishing the code so there is no point in someone else redoing what's already been done.

If they were to stop, the demand for someone to do it would still be there, and that demand wouldn't be getting met anymore, which creates the incentive for others to do it.

Meanwhile the point is that most of "it" doesn't actually need to be done anyway. You don't need to do everything Google is currently doing. Adding support for new hardware is important, but that has an obvious source of someone to do it because the hardware vendors want their new hardware to be widely supported so they can sell more of it. So all you really need is security updates, and a community can handle that as evidenced by the many instances of it actually happening for other code.

What stops the thing that makes Debian work from making this work?

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6. themac+Ga3[view] [source] 2025-03-27 19:24:57
>>Anthon+CM1
Debian doesn't "work" like Android works. Almost no end-user runs Debian on any of their devices because no one wants Debian over anything else. If you want to achieve Debian's stunning success of having almost no consumer adoption, you should follow its model of community development.

You're right, if Google steps away from Android completely then there would be incentive for others to do it, another megacorp will step in. Maybe Facebook or Microsoft or Samsung.

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