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1. mrlamb+8d[view] [source] 2025-02-17 01:59:13
>>NaOH+(OP)
I was really swept up in this article and the portrait of Amanda Barrows - what a unique and strong person and this city is incredibly lucky to have her.

Unlike some here, I came away with a deep sense of empathy, and today’s HN snark and frustration bounced off me pretty hard. The public order issues - homelessness in parks, the challenges of shared spaces—have certainly impacted me. But more than that, I struggle with how to translate the state of the world to my boys. I always remind them: every unhoused person was once a little boy or girl. We might be older now, but we’re still kids inside, and nobody dreams of growing up in these circumstances.

What struck me most was the balance of compassion and pragmatism that Amanda brings to her work. It’s easy to be frustrated with the policies and bureaucratic inefficiencies that slow down real solutions - but they are, in some ways, understandable.

The biggest frustration for me is the gap between the mental state of many unhoused individuals and the requirements needed to secure housing. The city surely understands the long-term costs of its policies, and it’s run by highly pragmatic people with limited budgets. But rules are rules, and at some point, top-down accommodations (including medical interventions...) are necessary to bridge this gap.

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2. Erigmo+ZI[view] [source] 2025-02-17 07:11:06
>>mrlamb+8d
Amanda's work is proof that personal engagement makes a difference, but scaling that kind of approach is incredibly difficult
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3. dsign+EK[view] [source] 2025-02-17 07:27:58
>>Erigmo+ZI
Indeed. But I have another point of view: what if our society is utterly broken? To see what I mean, imagine a world where that level of effort would cure any disease, even aging. How would that split us?
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4. jmcgou+8V[view] [source] 2025-02-17 09:18:37
>>dsign+EK
The biggest problem with our society is that no one knows or helps their neighbors anymore. I work in the emergency department and maybe a third of the patients are more in need of a good support system than medical treatment.

Met a guy whose elderly wife isn't strong enough to lift him when he falls out of bed, so once a week they call EMS or the fire department to get him back in bed. So many things that you used to call on your neighbors for help with, but life for many Americans in 2025 is isolating and lonely.

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5. nosian+eX[view] [source] 2025-02-17 09:37:50
>>jmcgou+8V
Did that ever work, except maybe in tribal societies?

Anything I read about middle ages or later was even worse. At best, they put such people into poorhouses.

A big family under one roof helped the best I guess? But in any less ideal situations I doubt even the children would have gone out of their way to devote their lives to the care of the elderly or the disabled. Examples from primitive societies: https://www.international.ucla.edu/cnes/article/113384

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6. johnny+pB2[view] [source] 2025-02-17 21:06:54
>>nosian+eX
You only need to go back 50 years. Have we already forgotten "it takes a village to raise a child"?

Even in my childhood I had remnants of this. My uncles or not-grandma grandma neighbors could be trusted to take care of my when my mom or grandparents weren't around. Nowadays that dynamic is spending $30+ on a credible babysitter. Those are the sort of dynamics that have recently weathered away.

>I doubt even the children would have gone out of their way to devote their lives to the care of the elderly or the disable

1. Yes they did and do. Many people still love their parents and want to make sure they are taken care for.

2. It isn't really that deep for neighbors. It's just a matter of checking up in them every few days. It isn't full time care. Of course if they get hurt they can either help out in minor cases or call emergency if it's more than minor.

These days you may sadly accept dying alone and not being discovered for weeks if people don't regularly contact you. What does that say about modern society?

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