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1. Univer+9S1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 16:01:21
>>Ozarki+(OP)
I feel torn about this because it seems there was good evidence for attempted murder- and I cannot understand why they never tried him for that (seemingly larger) crime. However, for the crime he was actually found guilty of, the sentence was unfair and unreasonable. It seems they unethically sentenced him for crimes he was not even ever charged with.

I'd also argue he almost certainly saved a huge number of lives with Silk Road: the ability to view eBay style feedback and chemical test results makes buying illegal drugs far safer than buying them on the street. On Silk Road people could buy from a reputable seller with a long history of providing unadulterated products, and could view testimonials from other buyers who had sent the products for chemical analysis.

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2. azinma+NS1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 16:06:11
>>Univer+9S1
Not going to comment on the murder part as that’s well discussed here.

I would take issue with assuming that it was net positive with ratings. Given the anonymous nature handling bots spamming fake reviews would be even harder to catch here, and you ultimately don’t know who ended up addicted/hooked/DUI’s etc from the easy availability this provided. I’m not sure the total effects could ever be qualified, but it’s not like unadulterated drugs are automatically safe. Just look at how many lives pharma-grade opioids ruined, even though they were “safe”.

That’s also not to mention guns and all kinds of other dangerous & illegal parts of it.

I do not understand why he pardoned this guy when he’s supposedly anti-drug and anti-cartel.

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3. sweete+hB2[view] [source] 2025-01-22 20:10:30
>>azinma+NS1
Its purely transactional. The Libertarians gave him their endorsement and one of the things they wanted in return was this pardon and deregulation.
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4. azinma+uB2[view] [source] 2025-01-22 20:12:23
>>sweete+hB2
The libertarian party or a bunch of crypto bros? I don’t get why “libertarians” would care about this one guy?
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5. etc-ho+9D4[view] [source] 2025-01-23 15:09:12
>>azinma+uB2
Ulbricht's career represents many core values of a certain wing of today's Libertarians.

* unfettered and unregulated and anonymous weapons sales. * willful ignorance and rejection of any of the social costs of buying and selling hard drugs. * commerce that operates in a world that is difficult to be taxes by government entities, and ideally anonymously (even though bitcoin is the least anonymous thing in the world)

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6. azinma+uD4[view] [source] 2025-01-23 15:11:57
>>etc-ho+9D4
So are libertarians fighting for complete legalization of drugs? If so, why aren’t they pressing on Trump for that? Why wasn’t that an executive order vs pardoning this guy?
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7. etc-ho+6U4[view] [source] 2025-01-23 17:13:05
>>azinma+uD4
I don't think Trump actually has a lot of Core Beliefs besides do stuff that appears strong on tv.

A large portion of people at the Libertarian convention that Trump gave a speech at would prefer complete legalization of all drugs.

I think it's a belief that a lot of us arrive at early in our lives, many eventually grow out of it.

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8. azinma+r05[view] [source] 2025-01-23 17:54:12
>>etc-ho+6U4
> I think it's a belief that a lot of us arrive at early in our lives, many eventually grow out of it.

Very astute. What’s interesting to me is the ability for youth to discount this potential change, mostly because they just see the end result vs the journey. I know I was like that.

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