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1. lbrine+GT[view] [source] 2025-01-22 08:25:39
>>Ozarki+(OP)
Someone might have already pointed it out but for me, the sentence of RA is not the main issue, the issue is allowing a single person to stamp through an entire legal system and undermine all of the time and money that is invested in it, even if that person is a president.

I suspect that the idea originally was to give some safety valve but if it is used more than a few times by a President, it makes a mockery of it and it should be removed as a power. How can a President ever decide that the entire legal process is flawed and their opinion is right? If the sentence was too long then change the sentencing guidelines.

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2. contra+qV[view] [source] 2025-01-22 08:42:50
>>lbrine+GT
The main failure here is the failure of the elections system to elect anyone reasonable.

On its own it is not that bad an idea for someone who carries a mandate of the majority of the population to be able to grant pardons.

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3. falcor+yY[view] [source] 2025-01-22 09:10:25
>>contra+qV
Why is it not a bad idea? Isn't it then just an example of Tyranny of the Majority?

Taken to the extreme, we could have an impartial legal system putting in prison criminals from an even mix of society, and then the president pardoning everyone from the majority group, leaving in prison only the minorities.

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4. lukan+hZ[view] [source] 2025-01-22 09:16:42
>>falcor+yY
"Isn't it then just an example of Tyranny of the Majority?"

And how would you call a justice system, so complicated and convulted and therefore expensive that poor people (from minorities) don't really stand a chance to get their justice there?

Obviously Ross was not in that group, but I see presidential pardon as a potential tool to counter the flaws of the justice system.

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5. Propel+821[view] [source] 2025-01-22 09:38:50
>>lukan+hZ
Unjust? Broken? But adding one broken thing to another broken thing will do nothing to fix any one of them.
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6. lukan+Y81[view] [source] 2025-01-22 10:47:08
>>Propel+821
Do you have concrete ideas on how to improve?

And till those steps are implemented, don't you think you would enjoy it, if the next president would pardon Snowden, or your personal favorite case of unjustice?

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7. Propel+u42[view] [source] 2025-01-22 17:04:16
>>lukan+Y81
As if the laws and justice of a nation are a questions of personal favorites! Maybe I have read too much enlightenment philosophers, but I happen to think in terms of general principles in this case.

This might be a good first step, too. Read more books from a time when people were struggling with arbitrary justice.

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8. lukan+4f3[view] [source] 2025-01-23 01:07:20
>>Propel+u42
So you don't have them. That's ok. And thank you, but I did read a lot of books. History, politically, .. I just apparently came to different conclusions, but it is ok for me to not take this deeper here.
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