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>>Ozarki+(OP)
Here is what the discussion looked like almost a decade ago: >>9626985

Very striking to see how the sentiment has drastically shifted, while the facts of the case did not. There is a really cultural shift visible in how this issue is seen on here.

>>consta+2v1
life in prison was too harsh, but a full pardon is too lenient.

>>effica+zQ1
Just to be clear, a pardon does not expunge or erase one's criminal record.

> life in prison was too harsh, but a full pardon is too lenient.

I think you should compare it as: life in prison was too harsh, but 10 years is too lenient.

>>WaitWa+132
The idea of a pardon is exactly that: it erases the record of the crime/conviction.

I think you are thinking of a commutation. That ends the punishment while not absolving the person of the crime.

So the January 6th criminals who got pardons no longer have a criminal record (on this count at least). The 14 people who were only granted commutations are still counted as felons.