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1. mppm+821[view] [source] 2025-01-22 06:56:32
>>tedsan+(OP)
Apart from my general queasiness about the whole AGI scaling business and the power concentration that comes with it, these are the exact four people/entities that I would not want to be at the tip of said power concentration.
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2. fsndz+Yi1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 09:35:41
>>mppm+821
What do you prefer ? Letting DeepSeek and China lead the AI war ? DeepSeek R1 is a big wake up call https://open.substack.com/pub/transitions/p/deepseek-is-comi...
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3. vbezhe+Au1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 11:35:06
>>fsndz+Yi1
China is much more peaceful nation compared to US. So, yes, I'd prefer China leading AI research any day. They are interested in mutual trade and prosperity, they respect local laws and culture, all unlike US.
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4. infect+6A1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 12:20:51
>>vbezhe+Au1
Holy smokes. Do folks like you actually believe this? China has its own style of colonialism (whatever you want to call it) but it certainly exists as strong as the US flavor.
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5. Cumpil+NB1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 12:32:01
>>infect+6A1
How many countries has China invaded and bombed in the last 30 years?

How many deaths did China's warmongering caused abroad?

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6. infect+YI1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:23:48
>>Cumpil+NB1
Quite a few from an economic perspective. Like I said they have their own style of colonialism. To think they are some peaceful loving nation is foolish. Maybe in the last 10 years China have had the military equipment capable of handling an offensive. They have been smart and done all their dealings via money. Without going too far in whataboutism, I simply find it ridiculous to classify China as a warm fuzzy nation with their long list of human rights issues. That does not mean America is peaceful and loving, simply that perhaps the two countries are not so different in net.
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7. Cumpil+LK1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:35:09
>>infect+YI1
> Like I said they have their own style of colonialism.

That's moving the goalposts and doesn't address the issue.

>They have been smart and done all their dealings via money.

You mean just like the country who issues the world reserve currency and who's intelligence agencies get involved in destabilizing regimes across the world?

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8. infect+JL1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:41:04
>>Cumpil+LK1
> That's moving the goalposts and doesn't address the issue.

Is this how you make a constructive argument? Perhaps I was expecting too much from a joke account but this style of whataboutism is boring.

My post that you responded to set my premise which was that China has its own form of colonialism that is quite different than Americas but it exists and it’s quite strong. To classify China as a peaceful loving nation that respects other cultures is as if we were saying the US has never started a conflict. It’s factually a lie. China has a long list of human rights issues, they factually do not respect other cultures even within their own borders. I am not defending America but pointing out that China is not what the OP stated.

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9. Cumpil+tM1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:44:24
>>infect+JL1
> I was expecting too much from a joke account

Are you the kind of superficial petty person who needs to take jabs at the messenger's name and not the message itself?

And are you really in the position to throw stones from a glass house with that account name? If you had your real name and social media profiles linked in the bio I'd understand, but you're just being hypocritical, petty and childish here with this 'gotcha'.

> To classify China as a peaceful loving nation that respects other cultures

I never made such a classification. You're building your own strammen to form a narrative you can attack but you're not saying anything useful the contradicts my PoV and wasting our time. Since you're obviously arguing in bad faith I won't converse with you further. Goodbye.

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10. infect+XM1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:47:49
>>Cumpil+tM1
If you have an argument that is actually on topic with what I said please continue, otherwise save your troll account for someone else. The whataboutism/gaslighting is silly. You clearly cannot read threads or respond in a logical form to the right person. The conversation at hand was about China and in response to the OP classifying them as a loving and respectful nation. I made no attempt to defend the US and it has been you moving the goalposts. You throw about whataboutism around and then simply runoff with some flimsy excuse about multiple people being unable to converse with you. Troll account.
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11. anon84+312[view] [source] 2025-01-22 15:11:20
>>infect+XM1
Cumpiler asked two very clear and direct questions:

>How many countries has China invaded and bombed in the last 30 years? >How many deaths did China's warmongering caused abroad?

You didn't answer those, just started hand waving some stuff about China's "own form of colonialism" -- without even explaining what that is and how it works (which personally I'd be curious to hear about, and believe *is*" likely guilty of violence).

So you very clearly are the one guilty of shifting the goalposts, going on tangents, and bringing up usernames instead of real arguments.

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12. freedo+np2[view] [source] 2025-01-22 17:20:11
>>anon84+312
I'm sympathetic to Infecto's positions, but I have to agree. I do think Cumpiler69's username is outrageous enough as to draw some commentary (provided it's civil and is semi-friendly ribbing) and perhaps even raise questions of whether they are a troll, but the substance of their comments is strong enough as to override these minor observations/objections.
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