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1. mppm+821[view] [source] 2025-01-22 06:56:32
>>tedsan+(OP)
Apart from my general queasiness about the whole AGI scaling business and the power concentration that comes with it, these are the exact four people/entities that I would not want to be at the tip of said power concentration.
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2. A4ET8a+gm1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 10:05:52
>>mppm+821
Just Ellison alone brings unwelcome feeling of having Oracle craziness forced down our collective throats, but I share your concern about the unholy alliance generated in front of us.
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3. DebtDe+0B1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 12:27:03
>>A4ET8a+gm1
My immediate reaction to the announcement was one of these is not like the others. OpenAI, a couple of big investment funds, Microsoft, Nvidia, and...............Oracle?
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4. Octoth+hL1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 13:38:42
>>DebtDe+0B1
Oracle makes perfect sense in that they are 1) a massive datacenter company, and 2) sell a variety of saas products to enterprises, which is a major target market for AI.
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5. mrbung+ZV1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 14:42:00
>>Octoth+hL1
Oracle has 2-3% market share as a Cloud Provider.

MSFT or even Google (AWS is not as mature in that space imho) made perfect sense, Oracle doesn't.

Elon and Larry are good friends, I would guess that has something to do with this development.

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6. Octoth+OW1[view] [source] 2025-01-22 14:48:43
>>mrbung+ZV1
> Oracle has 2-3% market share as a Cloud Provider.

And the market leader is what, 30%? about 1 order of magnitude. That's not such a huge difference, and I suspect that Oracle's size is disproportionate in the enterprise space (which is where a lot of AI services are targeted) whereas AWS has a _ton_ of non-enterprise things hosted.

In any case, 2-3% is big enough where this kind of investment is 1) financially possible, 2) desirable to grow to be #2 or #3

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7. mrbung+yf2[view] [source] 2025-01-22 16:30:34
>>Octoth+OW1
Getting from 2% (Oracle) to 10% (GCP) market share would need 37.97% CAGR in 5 years. In a vacuum where everything else keeps the same, maybe, but I see that goal as very difficult to attain in what is a highly competitive industry right now.

Disclaimer: I work at a highly regulated industry and we are fine running our "enterprise" workloads in Azure (and even AWS for a spinoff company in the same sector). Oracle has no specific moat in that area imho, unless you already locked-in in one of their software offerings.

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