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>>crbela+(OP)
The article missed the biggest opportunity to be curious by avoiding the question: What if they're right?

>>kelsey+5g1
> But by the same token we should not automatically reject everything the woke believe... It would be a mistake to discard them all just because one didn't share the religion that espoused them. It would be the sort of thing a religious zealot would do.

To be fair, he does say the above, which is close enough. The problem with asking "what if they're right" is that there's no single formulation of beliefs shared universally by such large and diverse group, so you can't consider whether they are right or not, only whether each individual expression is.

>>karate+qi1
But there’s this statement as well:

> Racism, for example, is a genuine problem. Not a problem on the scale that the woke believe it to be…

The whole idea of woke (in the non pejorative sense) is that you’ve done the work to perceive the actual problem.

That statement shows that he hasn’t, which I think undermines the good parts of the essay.

>>rukuu0+Tw1
> > Racism, for example, is a genuine problem. Not a problem on the scale that the woke believe it to be…

Rich, coming from a rich white male. Hey, we're not lynching people anymore!

The whole point of "wokeness" is being legitimately aware of these issues and not just sweeping them under the rug with an "it's a problem, but not as bad as they say".

>>insane+Ia3
Therein lies the issue. Just because you believe it's a pervasive issue doesn't make it so. "Wokeness" has many parallels to the "Satanic panic" of the 1980s. People wanted others to be legitimately aware of the Satanic ritual abuse and not just sweeping them under the rug with an "it's a problem, but not as bad as they say".

>>anonfo+Pe5
We're talking about ongoing systemic and widespread social issues that are easily manifested through statistical evidence and therefore not dependent on my belief or your belief. I'm old enough to remember the 80s and no, this is not something like the "Satanic panic" and other similar panics. Not even close.

You're sounding like someone in the 60s saying "yeah, equal rights is a problem but not as bad as they say". The majority of white Americans at that time didn't think there was a problem with equal rights. In 1963, 60% of Americans had an unfavorable view of MLK's march on Washington. In 1964 a survey showed that a majority of New Yorkers felt that the "Negro civil rights movement had gone too far". etc. etc.

If you're not aware that there's a problem, __that's__ the problem.