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1. yapyap+nd1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 18:44:52
>>crbela+(OP)
I think the word “woke” means very different things to some people.

As an example I think people from the American political left to somewhere(?) in the middle see it as what it has been introduced as, that being looking past the status quo and instead looking at your own values, i.e. the morality of homelessness and not having a disdain for them but empathy for them instead.

and then on the other side it feels like the people on the American political right see it as what this website describes it as “ A self-righteously moralistic person who behaves as if superior to others.”

I think the divide has originated from taking unlikeable behaviour and labeling that as ‘woke’ (in bad faith of course) and some people have just bonded to that definition so much that they see it as that.

At least that’s what I’ve noticed online over the past few (bonkers) years

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2. LeroyR+bK1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 20:47:56
>>yapyap+nd1
Why and how is labelling unlikable behaviour as woke bad faith. As I understand the right using the term, they use it consistently to refer to a very specific type of behaviour they see as bad (one core aspect is prioritising signalling being virtuous over actually improving the world).

Is your complaint that this usage unfairly co-opts the original left usage of the word?

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3. thruwa+mU1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 21:28:35
>>LeroyR+bK1
Imagine I wrote an essay on Christianity and based it entirely on the behavior of evangelicals in the South who attend megachurchies (a very vocal minority). Surely you'd expect other Christians (all around the world) who equally claim true usage to object.
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4. bpt3+cX1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 21:42:42
>>thruwa+mU1
I think the similarities to a religion are a strong indication that there's a serious issue
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5. thruwa+Pk3[view] [source] 2025-01-14 08:50:47
>>bpt3+cX1
I only used religion as an example, not to set up a false dichotomy. It could be anything people care about - 'love', 'patriotism', 'fairness', 'rule of law' ...
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6. bpt3+Wy3[view] [source] 2025-01-14 11:21:12
>>thruwa+Pk3
One of those is not like the others...
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7. thruwa+j55[view] [source] 2025-01-14 18:45:08
>>bpt3+Wy3
'success','democracy', 'capitalism', 'free market' what is the correct interpretation of the constitution, who is the GOAT of [insert pursuit] and what qualities do they have to have, 'democracy', 'socialism' ...shall I go on?
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