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1. yapyap+nd1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 18:44:52
>>crbela+(OP)
I think the word “woke” means very different things to some people.

As an example I think people from the American political left to somewhere(?) in the middle see it as what it has been introduced as, that being looking past the status quo and instead looking at your own values, i.e. the morality of homelessness and not having a disdain for them but empathy for them instead.

and then on the other side it feels like the people on the American political right see it as what this website describes it as “ A self-righteously moralistic person who behaves as if superior to others.”

I think the divide has originated from taking unlikeable behaviour and labeling that as ‘woke’ (in bad faith of course) and some people have just bonded to that definition so much that they see it as that.

At least that’s what I’ve noticed online over the past few (bonkers) years

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2. hoppp+mj3[view] [source] 2025-01-14 08:32:48
>>yapyap+nd1
As a non-american, reading the definition of woke I dont know what to think

If woke means progressive and politically conscious then the opposite is what, uninformed,thoughtless.

So people say they rather be ignorant than conscious?

Sometimes I think people are not actually fully conscious and tend to behave like primitive animals and they are hating everything because reverting to hate is a primitive animalistic trait that requires little thinking or consciousness.

Or its a racist thing because woke has roots in black culture?

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3. wccraw+Rw3[view] [source] 2025-01-14 10:54:30
>>hoppp+mj3
Originally, people meant that you were inclusive and caring about all people. Except, you know, those hateful people on the right. Because fuck them. (I'm not even kidding. This is how they really felt, somehow.)

But then "the right" got ahold of the term and used it to mean the people above who went above and beyond and were actually being harmful instead of helpful, in the name of "being woke".

Personally, I think the pejorative term is a lot more accurate, especially for most people who consider themselves "woke". They drink their own koolaid and believe what they're doing is helpful, and can't see the divide that they are causing.

Of course, there are a ton of trolls (who are also probably on "the right") that use it to cause the divide as well.

So in the end, it ends up just being a way for jerks on both sides to rile each other up, instead of actually helping anyone.

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4. btreec+lS3[view] [source] 2025-01-14 13:52:43
>>wccraw+Rw3
> Originally, people meant that you were inclusive and caring about all people. Except, you know, those hateful people on the right. Because fuck them. (I'm not even kidding. This is how they really felt, somehow.)

Surely you have evidence for this claim that would counter all the other evidence that disputes it?

Your definition doesn't even stand up to the first paragraph on Wikipedia

- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke - https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/home-news/woke-meani... - https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2023/06/06/what-doe...

If you're reading "stay woke" and understand it to me "fuck people we don't like" then I'm not sure what reading comprehension program to recommend.

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