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1. kelsey+5g1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 18:57:35
>>crbela+(OP)
The article missed the biggest opportunity to be curious by avoiding the question: What if they're right?
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2. karate+qi1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:06:35
>>kelsey+5g1
> But by the same token we should not automatically reject everything the woke believe... It would be a mistake to discard them all just because one didn't share the religion that espoused them. It would be the sort of thing a religious zealot would do.

To be fair, he does say the above, which is close enough. The problem with asking "what if they're right" is that there's no single formulation of beliefs shared universally by such large and diverse group, so you can't consider whether they are right or not, only whether each individual expression is.

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3. rukuu0+Tw1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:57:42
>>karate+qi1
But there’s this statement as well:

> Racism, for example, is a genuine problem. Not a problem on the scale that the woke believe it to be…

The whole idea of woke (in the non pejorative sense) is that you’ve done the work to perceive the actual problem.

That statement shows that he hasn’t, which I think undermines the good parts of the essay.

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4. mosheg+hq2[view] [source] 2025-01-14 00:23:52
>>rukuu0+Tw1
It's also a little suspect when a white man talks the degree to which racism (and by extension, sexism and homophobia) is a problem. The way he writes about it is such a casual dismissal that it sounds like gas lighting to me.

Has anyone ever referred to him with a racial epithet? Has he been stopped and frisked? Racially profiled? When was he last treated as if his ideas aren't as good because of his gender? Or passed up for a promotion for any of these reasons? Was he ever treated as if he is unworthy of marriage because he loves the wrong person? Has he worried about whether or not his name sounds a little too ethnic on his resume? Has he ever been called a dirty ____?

Among other things, including being called racial epithets, and worry about whether or not my name sounds a little too ethnic, I've had to listen to contemporary American politicians talk about how my ethnic group controls lasers from space.

But no, racism is not a problem on the scale that the woke believe it to be? It's easy to say that when you never experienced it.

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5. wpm+j63[view] [source] 2025-01-14 06:04:22
>>mosheg+hq2
>When was he last treated as if his ideas aren't as good because of his gender?

In your comment.

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