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1. kelsey+5g1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 18:57:35
>>crbela+(OP)
The article missed the biggest opportunity to be curious by avoiding the question: What if they're right?
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2. karate+qi1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:06:35
>>kelsey+5g1
> But by the same token we should not automatically reject everything the woke believe... It would be a mistake to discard them all just because one didn't share the religion that espoused them. It would be the sort of thing a religious zealot would do.

To be fair, he does say the above, which is close enough. The problem with asking "what if they're right" is that there's no single formulation of beliefs shared universally by such large and diverse group, so you can't consider whether they are right or not, only whether each individual expression is.

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3. rukuu0+Tw1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:57:42
>>karate+qi1
But there’s this statement as well:

> Racism, for example, is a genuine problem. Not a problem on the scale that the woke believe it to be…

The whole idea of woke (in the non pejorative sense) is that you’ve done the work to perceive the actual problem.

That statement shows that he hasn’t, which I think undermines the good parts of the essay.

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4. Manuel+FE2[view] [source] 2025-01-14 01:55:39
>>rukuu0+Tw1
Except in plenty of cases, Paul's claim is demonstrably true. People vastly overestimate the racial disparity in police uses of force, for example: https://manhattan.institute/article/perceptions-are-not-real...

When people were asked whether male-dominated or female-dominated industries were sexist, they vastly overestimated the degree of gender discrimination as compared to the experimentally observed rates (and in the case of male-dominated industries, they got the direction of discrimination backwards): https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S07495978230005... from https://id.elsevier.com/as/authorization.oauth2?platSite=SD%...

The whole pattern of people saying what amounts to "the fact that you disagree with me means you haven't bothered to examine the problem" is a very unfortunate trend. Did it occur to you that perhaps he did do the work on studying the problem, and came to a different conclusion?

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