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1. jhp123+ji1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:06:13
>>crbela+(OP)
if you're going to talk about history, it really helps to ground your narrative in real people, events, or statements. This all comes off as a history of vibes, and I don't remember the same vibes at all (maybe because I wasn't on twitter).

When pg does make contact with reality, it mostly doesn't even support his narrative. He mentions the George Floyd protests and the MeToo movement/Weinstein - by any measure real social justice issues where the perpetrators deserved condemnation!

He also mentions the Bud Light boycotts as a case of going "too woke", but Bud Light's actions were not an "aggressive performative focus on social justice." Bud Light simply paid a trans person to promote their product, without any political messaging whatsoever. It was the boycott by anti-trans bigots that politicized that incident.

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2. Alexan+pA1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 20:11:53
>>jhp123+ji1
> He also mentions the Bud Light boycotts as a case of going "too woke", but Bud Light's actions were not an "aggressive performative focus on social justice." Bud Light simply paid a trans person to promote their product, without any political messaging whatsoever. It was the boycott by anti-trans bigots that politicized that incident.

This is a double standard. For example, Contrapoints was cancelled for using Buck Angel to do a 10 second voice over in one video[1]. A far less politically charged association with someone than what Bud Light did. In this regard, I think the left has been the ones who primarily set the rules of engagement for the last few years. Can't complain when those same rules are used against you.

[1] https://medium.com/@rachel.orourke_88152/the-10-second-voice...

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3. djur+jE2[view] [source] 2025-01-14 01:53:40
>>Alexan+pA1
Contrapoints, her defenders, and her critics (mostly) were all on the left. I don't know the person you linked to, but she seems to be defending Contrapoints from a left theoretical perspective. It's deeply disingenuous to argue that bigoted right-wing campaigns are justified by some subset of people on the left being cruel to other people on the left.
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