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1. runlev+lU1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 21:28:31
>>crbela+(OP)
> The danger of these rules was not just that they created land mines for the unwary

In real life, these "land mines" don't usually explode unless people think you're stepping on it intentionally.

For instance, every time I've accidentally used the wrong pronoun for someone, I've gotten a polite correction, I make a mental note, and everyone moves on. It's just not a big deal.

With a large enough audience, there will always be someone who assumes you've acted with ill intent. But if you know you've done it innocently, then you can just ignore them and move on.

Intent matters. Those performative things communicate your intent to make others feel welcome and included. So if you fly off the handle at a reasonable request that would make a group of people feel more included, you've communicated your intent accordingly.

Occasionally, there are some purely performative things that don't actually make anyone feel more included. Personally, I think it's reasonable to ask that question if you're genuinely interested in finding the answer. However, purely performative things tend to disappear in time; so sometimes the most pragmatic response is to just go with the flow and see where things land.

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2. boplic+R02[view] [source] 2025-01-13 22:03:05
>>runlev+lU1
I think what PGs article misses, pretty much completely, is a more accurate definition of the work woke, which is:

>A word used to label another's political beliefs and activism as incorrect and foolish, particularly if that person is seen as "left leaning" or "progressive."

In other words, it's common usage has devolved to mean "you're an idiot."

This is a travesty, really, because its use erases any chance to have an honest dialogue about the topics and behaviors being labelled as "woke."

For example, people could instead say: "I disagree with X behavior, and here's why." Instead, people say: "look at that woke idiot." (And really, this is not an exaggeration.)

The normal behavior you describe, of people pointing things out, with others' responding in kind, has little to do with the common usage of the word "woke," which has simply become a form of name-calling.

And it is unfortunate, because there is much to criticize about activists on the left, but name calling is in no way helpful, and instead, drives further reductive discourse.

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3. dynami+B72[view] [source] 2025-01-13 22:37:40
>>boplic+R02
This is it.

Well organised and destructive conservatives across much of the western world, have conspired successfully to nullify the positive effect of a word once used to elide wide ranging ideas and discussions on the subject of social justice.

This is social media at it's most galling.

Though alongside that, we now have a wider appreciation of a long list historical crimes, and the longstanding effect of those transgressions.

In that sense, we have all become 'woke'.

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