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1. Ukv+rD[view] [source] 2025-01-13 15:49:49
>>crbela+(OP)
> Imagine having to explain to a well-meaning visitor from another planet why using the phrase "people of color" is considered particularly enlightened, but saying "colored people" gets you fired. [...] There are no underlying principles.

To understand much of our language, Gnorts would have to already be aware that our words and symbols gain meaning from how they're used, and you couldn't, for instance, determine that a swastika is offensive (in the west) by its shape alone.

In this case, the term "colored people" gained racist connotations from its history of being used for discrimination and segregation - and avoiding it for that reason is the primary principle at play. There's also the secondary/less universal principle of preferring "person-first language".

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2. dasein+Gj1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:11:37
>>Ukv+rD
they’re not negroes, they’re colored

they’re not colored, they’re African-American

they’re not African-American, they’re black

they’re not black, they’re Black

they’re not Black, they’re People of Color

they’re not People of Color, they’re BIPOC

I wonder what the next twist of the pretzel will look like

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3. JohnMa+Jl1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:18:57
>>dasein+Gj1
What, IYO, is being twisted here? What should people be called?
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4. drdec+St1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 19:46:35
>>JohnMa+Jl1
Personally, I took the comment to imply that we are not really solving the root issue behind what is driving the change in terminology and thus we are doomed to continue to apply the same (ineffective) solution.
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5. potato+RG1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 20:34:39
>>drdec+St1
Why is the changing terminology something that needs to be stopped? Does the language used to describe an identity need to be frozen in time?
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6. drdec+YS1[view] [source] 2025-01-13 21:21:26
>>potato+RG1
> Why is the changing terminology something that needs to be stopped?

It does not. If we were merely talking about the current young person slang word for something good (e.g. rad, sick, amazeballs, etc. (don't ask me for the current one)) no one cares that the terminology changes.

But in this case each change comes with the same reasoning behind it. This indicates that the change has been ineffective and people ought to consider why that is and if there is something else that could be done instead or in addition to be more effective.

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